Macro shots with Norman Power Pack, D50 Nikon

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Rebecca Ore, Feb 3, 2007.

  1. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    These were all under one light which was fairly overwhelming for the
    situation. Next time I need to set the ISO to something lower but this
    show how the D50 handles ISO 1600. The raw files went through
    Lightroom, then were Photoshopped with some sharpening, auto level, auto
    color, and auto contrast (though not in that order). Flash synced
    through a Wein voltage converter, shutter speed 1/500, f/ stops various,
    f/18 to 32. The first shot is a reduction of the full frame that the
    shot of the screw reflecting the lever knob was taken from.

    I think the better choice is going to be to make a diffuser for the
    Sunpack flash as the Norman lights even reduced are overkill for macro
    shots. I had to back the light stand off a bit not to utterly wash
    shots out.
    Rebecca Ore, Feb 3, 2007
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  2. Way noisy. Of course you coulda/shoulda set the ISO to 100 or so.
    John McWilliams, Feb 3, 2007
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  3. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    Yes, I suspect I'll be doing that in the future.
    Rebecca Ore, Feb 3, 2007
  4. D50 can handle ISO 200 to 1600.
    So 100 is not possible
    Torsten Driese, Feb 3, 2007
  5. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    I've added another shot taken with the on-camera flash and ISO 200.
    Went down in the menus and turned off Auto-ISO, which I'll remember to
    do next time I play with the off-camera flash. and click down
    for the full 100 % crop.

    I like the light to the side better than what the on-camera flash gives,
    but I think the surface of the Leica (matt chrome) is causing some
    spectral colors. And I see a dust bunny that I didn't clone out.
    Rebecca Ore, Feb 3, 2007
  6. Rebecca Ore

    Mark² Guest

    It's hard to care about the dust bunny with that huge, blaring highlight
    from the flash.
    Looks like a glob of white paint...
    Next time, how about a tripod, and more gentle, diffused light/slow shutter
    next time?
    Mark², Feb 3, 2007
  7. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    Most of what I like shooting closeups and macros of won't stand still
    while I set up a tripod. The on-camera flash *is* harsh, but I think
    I'd get better results with a diffuser on the Sunpak out from the camera
    (that's why I asked Rita about her/his set up). And I can lower the
    power on the Sunpak in steps to 1/12 power.

    I could probably set up in the living room for a daylight shot, but I
    don't have a focusing rail so I can't guarantee one-to-one and it will
    have to be tomorrow because the house lights are all weirdly mixed.
    I've been debating getting a focusing rail.

    Most of what I've tried in closeup and macro has come from John Shaw's
    older books from the 70s and 80s.
    Rebecca Ore, Feb 4, 2007
  8. Rebecca Ore

    Mark² Guest

    Do your camera subjects have legs or something??
    Just set up the tripod next to a table...set a custom white balance...and
    then it won't matter what funky lighting you've got indoors. I use a
    focussing rail, which does help a lot, but I wouldn't think a still shot of
    a camera part would be all that difficult... -You could even set the camera
    on something smooth, and move IT a bit, rather than your camera.
    It was John Shaw that helped get me into photography years ago...with his
    books on various photo basics, and other more specific stuff.
    Mark², Feb 4, 2007
  9. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    My favorite subjects have fins, but I'm not keeping fish anymore. The
    current favorite subjects have six to eight or more legs.

    Saw your set-up in the other post. I think I prefer one spot for the
    critters, and that rig looks a bit cumbersome.
    I spent time playing with film, so I'm done for the night (two 35 mm
    rolls and one medium format roll developed in Diafine). They're drying
    as we speak. I've got a tripod -- I'll try it that way next really free
    day I get (school work to do tomorrow and promotional material for my
    publisher by the 14th).
    I have two of his books. My first foray into photography with a SLR was
    in 1966. I've been an off and on amateur and once upon a time quarter
    time PJ (for a little less than a year and the rest of the job was
    reporting) photographer, and am rather not interested in getting too
    intense about it because I know how intense I can get with things like
    Rebecca Ore, Feb 4, 2007
  10. Rebecca Ore

    Mark² Guest

    Ya, if you can get that intense over "crop factor" I can only imagine what
    you'd do with an issue that actually mattered... :)
    Mark², Feb 4, 2007
  11. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    <tries to look put out while laughing> I tend to feel that the digital
    folks sometimes believe there has been no other photography before them,
    much less in parallel with them.
    Rebecca Ore, Feb 4, 2007
  12. Rebecca Ore

    Mark² Guest

    I think it will help if you try to stop thinking in terms of a single
    "digital folks" category. Just as is/was true with film users, you have
    digital users that range anywhere from total ignoramus VERY
    knowledgable folk using DSLRs (and even a very few without them). If you
    can try to create these sub-categories in your mind, you'll discover there
    is a lot worth talking about...and even a lot of folks worth listening to.
    Mark², Feb 4, 2007

  13. Oh dear, there you go again, "them".
    John McWilliams, Feb 4, 2007
  14. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    I qualified it, didn't I?
    Rebecca Ore, Feb 4, 2007
  15. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    Okay, some digital folks. Thing is that some of the problems had been
    the same in large and medium format, but it looks like the "crop"
    concept is infiltrating there.

    Rebecca Ore, Feb 4, 2007
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    tomm42, Feb 5, 2007
  17. Rebecca Ore

    Rebecca Ore Guest

    I had a 36 inch Photek Softlighter, strobe pointed back at the umbrella
    and bounced through the diffuser, so it was quite a bit larger than the
    Leica. The power pack was set at 200 w/s. I had to back the
    Softlighter off to about three or four feet away from the camera before
    I wasn't completely glared out. The power pack was a bit light for
    large format, but it's rather overkill, even diffused, for macro.

    Perhaps if I'd set the ISO lower.

    I was curious to see if it would work on manual with the D50 as one
    place told me the old Norman power packs weren't compatible with
    digital. A B&H salesman said the Norman lights would be fine for
    anything. The other guy had been pushing Comets.

    The lights are a bitch to rig and a bitch to put up, so I don't run them
    that much. I should buy some cheap sheets and just leave them up all
    the time in the basement.

    The Sunpak is a bit more adjustable and not quite the intensity, I just
    need a better diffuser for it -- make it or buy it. I had a Metz handle
    flash earlier, but sold it.

    I was handholding.

    I haven't tested the heads against the flash meter to see at what point
    the meter would want me to open the lens.
    I've got a flash meter, but I didn't bother with it since I had the
    camera speed as fast as it would synch and the lens as stopped down as I
    could without getting some diffusion effects. I chimped and backed the
    lights off as far as I could in the space. You didn't see the shots
    where the Leica was practically white. :). The power pack I have only
    has 800 w/s to one head, or 200 w/s per head whether you have one or
    four heads hooked up.

    The power pack really is overkill for macro without maybe a couple more
    layers of diffuser over the umbrella.

    I'd been thinking about selling the power pack and strobes, but I don't
    know what they'd be worth these days and I don't think I could justify
    getting them again.
    Rebecca Ore, Feb 5, 2007
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