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Discussion in 'Photography' started by Alan Browne, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. Alan Browne

    Tony Cooper Guest

    "Narcissism" is not a word that I would choose to describe the
    motivation to participate in competitions. The narcissist is
    interested only self, and is excessively vain or egotistical.

    The narcissist would be adverse to entering competition because he or
    she would not be willing to be judged by others and would assume that
    anything he or she created would be superior to the submissions of
    others by default.

    The true narcissist *does* feel that competitions of this sort are
    pointless, though, because he or she feels that his or her submission
    is sure to win and therefore going through the motions of entering is
    pointless.

    Those of us who do enter competitions do so because a) we are proud of
    our work, or, b) we want to hear/read how others see our work, or, c)
    because we want recognition for our efforts, or, d) a combination of
    those reasons.
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 18, 2013
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  2. Alan Browne

    Rob Guest

    After a club outing about 2 months later a subject came up where an
    image suitable for the comp, 4 images the same turned up, B&W as well.
    We have blue eye blonds who are aborigines, nowdays you can't tell :)
     
    Rob, Mar 18, 2013
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  3. Alan Browne

    Trevor Guest

    Yep, that's the motivation for many, a desire to be admired by others for
    the talent they think they have.

    Right, they expect to win, and blame the judges when they don't.

    Well that's one way to look at it I guess. But the true narcissist expects
    to win and needs the admiration.

    Exactly my point. But go right ahead, I said straight up each to their own.

    Trevor.
     
    Trevor, Mar 18, 2013
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  4. Alan Browne

    Tony Cooper Guest


    This is about mandate shots, not necessarily the "best" shots in one's
    archives. If you are going to participate in a competition with a
    mandate, and all you are willing to put into it is a trawl through
    your archives, I don't think you are entering into the spirit of
    things. The mandate should encourage you to go out and find something
    that fits.

    If it was up to me, I'd announce the mandate three months in advance
    and allow only photographs taken within that span. I'd also have
    quarterly "Open" competitions where archive shots of any age would be
    allowed. This would give the participants three months to find a
    mandate submission for each of the eight "fresh" competitions and a
    chance every three months to present their favorite archive shot.

    Besides, what I think is my "best" shot of a (mandate) might be
    bettered if I re-shoot the same scene.
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 19, 2013
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  5. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest


    Then I misunderstood.
    Right now I am having difficulties with my iPhone. So I am not getting
    any new apps, but thanks for the suggestions.
     
    PeterN, Mar 23, 2013
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  6. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    If you only take shots like that, I don't blame you. However, I am
    surprised that you don't see a lot of good Street shots at a car show,
    or any other street festival.
    Now that's more like it! That shot captures the essence of the car.
    Nicely done.
     
    PeterN, Mar 23, 2013
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  7. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    Most of the members of my club do not shoot for the approval of judges.
    We only submit images to the competition for the critique. I find that
    third-party comments, where the people are not afraid to hurt my
    feelings, can be quite helpful. Quite often they point out flaws that I
    have not seen. The only other person who will give me honest opinions on
    how crappy some of my images are is my younger daughter, and I can't
    really impose on her all the time. She only works approximately 80 hours
    a week.
     
    PeterN, Mar 23, 2013
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  8. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    Yes, that can be a good idea. However the commentary on older images can
    be quite helpful too. Some people are extremely competitive, some to the
    point of almost being aggressive. If these people needed for their ego,
    it certainly takes nothing away from me for them to be A-holes. One of
    the rules is that all postprocessing be done by the maker. We used to
    have a member who was quite open about the fact that he was hiring
    somebody to do his postprocessing.

    We had another member who would accuse people of stealing his shot if
    you walked near him with a camera while he was shooting. As a response
    we had a special critique where we all went to one location and the
    critique was based solely on shots taken at that time and place.
     
    PeterN, Mar 23, 2013
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  9. Alan Browne

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Tony Cooper, Mar 23, 2013
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  10. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    PeterN, Mar 23, 2013
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  11. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    What sort of "difficulties" are you having with your iPhone. We have at
    least four iPhone users here who might be able to help.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 23, 2013
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  12. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    It will only recharge from one charging cord.
    My wife's iPhone has no such issue, so I know it's not that all of the
    other chargers are bad. I took it into Verizon, and they sent me a new
    phone. I have not yet returned the old, because I am not certain that
    all privacy information has been deleted.
     
    PeterN, Mar 23, 2013
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  13. Alan Browne

    Savageduck Guest

    That is odd.
    The most frequent issue along those line I have heard of, but not
    experienced myself is a bad USB cable. I have never heard of an iPhone
    being restricted to a particular charger. I have multiple chargers and
    USB cords for the iPhone, Ipad, several vintages of iPod and the
    iPhone/iPod connection cable in the glovebox of my E350, all are
    interchangeable. So i guess the issue is peculiar to your phone and
    replacing it is probably the best solution.

    Open the "Settings" app, go to "General", scroll down to "Reset" (it is
    the last choice as you scroll down), select "Erase All Content and
    Settings". Just don't do that until you have set up your new iPhone
    after having backed it up to your PC or iCloud.
     
    Savageduck, Mar 23, 2013
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  14. Totally Ace! I don't think I have ever seen a better picture of an old
    yank tank. As Peter N says - the essence! The bonnet (engine lid? sorry
    I can't think of the right US English) up says car show, but everything
    else says drive-in movie. I love it!
     
    Elliott Roper, Mar 23, 2013
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  15. Alan Browne

    PeterN Guest

    Thanks.
    I made an appointment with Apple, to see if they can solve the issue.
    They advised me to back up the data before I come in. I have backed up
    the data, but the new phnoe won't see it. Naturally, I am not doing
    anything until the issue is resolved.
     
    PeterN, Mar 23, 2013
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  16. Alan Browne

    Tony Cooper Guest

    That whooshes me. The boy in the diaper? Why would it improve the
    image if he was in the upper right corner?
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 23, 2013
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  17. Alan Browne

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Thank you. The bonnet, in the US, is the hood. You can't see the
    hooter button, or horn button as we call it, any of the fenders
    (wings), the gas (petrol) tank cap, the trunk (boot), or the muffler
    (silencer). You can see the hood through the windshield (windscreen).
    This was a 2-door coupe, not a saloon car or a shooting brake.
     
    Tony Cooper, Mar 23, 2013
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  18. Alan Browne

    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : >
    : >: >> The only real objection I have to the competitions is that submissions
    : >> are not required to be "fresh". So, instead of shooting to the
    : >> mandate, most members pull shots from their archives and the image
    : >> might have been taken several years ago.
    : >
    : >Why should that matter?
    :
    : The idea of a mandate is to encourage the photographer to find
    : something to shoot that he/she might not otherwise shoot and/or to
    : look at a scene to find something in it that he/she might not
    : otherwise see. It should expand the photographer's thinking.
    :
    : Putting a time restraint on it, stirs the photographer to do the above
    : now instead of going through a couple of thousand archive shots that
    : might fit the mandate.
    :
    : > A seperate comp for a joint walkabout shooting session should cover
    : >that where people only get to shoot the same subjects in the same time,
    : >for those who prefer that limitation.
    :
    : To the best of my knowledge, there are no Aborigines that are members
    : of the camera club I belong to.

    You've lost me in what seems to be a total non sequitur. Obviously I'm missing
    something. Can you elaborate to dispel my confusion?

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Mar 24, 2013
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  19. Australian Aboriginals were hunter-gatherers who would go on trips sometimes
    to find food or for cultural reasons. This was termed 'going walkabout'.
    In Oz a person who is missing or travelling with no particular destination
    is said to be 'gone walkabout'.

    D
     
    David Hare-Scott, Mar 24, 2013
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  20. Alan Browne

    Robert Coe Guest

    : Robert Coe wrote:
    :
    : >>> A seperate comp for a joint walkabout shooting session should cover
    : >>> that where people only get to shoot the same subjects in the same
    : >>> time, for those who prefer that limitation.
    : >>
    : >> To the best of my knowledge, there are no Aborigines that are members
    : >> of the camera club I belong to.
    : >
    : > You've lost me in what seems to be a total non sequitur. Obviously
    : > I'm missing something. Can you elaborate to dispel my confusion?
    : >
    : > Bob
    :
    : Australian Aboriginals were hunter-gatherers who would go on trips sometimes
    : to find food or for cultural reasons. This was termed 'going walkabout'.
    : In Oz a person who is missing or travelling with no particular destination
    : is said to be 'gone walkabout'.

    Thanks for the clarification. I sort of knew that "walkabout" was an
    Australian term, but I wasn't aware of the implied reference to Aboriginals.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Mar 24, 2013
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