Magazine work?

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by Derry Argue, Feb 21, 2006.

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    Derry Argue Guest

    I am considering purchasing the Nikon D200 but I know very little about
    digital photography, only that I would need a DSLR to replace my 35mm
    equipment and I will go for the best camera I can afford.

    But will the quality be good enough for publication in the 'glossy'
    magazines?

    I was out the other day and spoke to a man using a Nikon D2X. I asked him
    the same question. His reply, "Not quite yet". Is this correct?

    Derry
     
    Derry Argue, Feb 21, 2006
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    Jeremy Nixon Guest

    No. Unless the magazine in question is looking for extreme medium-format
    quality. A D2x surpasses anything you could get from normal 35mm film
    and will do just fine even as a two-page spread. Ditto for the high-end
    Canon models.

    (Pick up a Sports Illustrated; pretty high quality. You think anything in
    there is still shot on film?)
     
    Jeremy Nixon, Feb 21, 2006
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Search this group for discussion of 'Arizona Highways' magazine for more
    discussion. That's a larger size layout and a last holdout (until
    recently?). For a 2-page spread they probably would expect medium format
    film or an $8,000 16MP Canon 1DsMII.

    Optimal digital printing is generally considered 300dpi so:

    the 16.6 MP Canon:
    4992 x 3328 at 16.6" x 11"
    -this has been compared to MF by some, especially considering the
    exceptional quality and full frame sensor.
    (The D2x has a smaller cropped sensor at 12.8 MP)

    and the D200's cropped 10.2 MP:
    3872 x 2592 at 13" x 8.6"
    -which is big enough for a regular size cover but not a 2-page spread.

    And a regular 6 MP dSLR:
    3000 x 2000 at 10" x 6.7"
    -which is real close to being big enough for a cover.
     
    Paul Furman, Feb 22, 2006
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  4. No, a 39MP 'blad would work just fine....


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    John A. Stovall, Feb 22, 2006
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  5. There are two questions; would it look good enough, and would they buy
    it. The answers to the two questions are not the same.

    A D200 would be marginal for a two-page spread. I would have not the
    slightest worries about reproducing the picture full-page, though.
    And the two-page spread might look first-rate, depending on the
    precise picture. Most pictures in magazines are reproduced less than
    full-page.
     
    David Dyer-Bennet, Feb 22, 2006
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    Paul Furman Guest

    That's for poster-size art prints.
     
    Paul Furman, Feb 22, 2006
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    Eric Gill Guest

    National Geographic has run images from a 6MP Digital Rebel, and I've shot
    covers with the 10D.

    The most exacting magazines would require 16MP or more, but you left out
    what range you'd be shooting for, so it's hard to give you exact advice.
     
    Eric Gill, Feb 22, 2006
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    Matt Clara Guest

    But we shouldn't judge "magazine work" by Arizona Highway's standards...
     
    Matt Clara, Feb 22, 2006
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  9. You know little about photography, but are concerned that the D200 will
    be good enough for magazine reproduction. DOH!
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Feb 22, 2006
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    Steve Wolfe Guest

    Search this group for discussion of 'Arizona Highways' magazine for more
    A few days ago I had a chance to witness a 40" wide print from a 1Ds Mk
    II. It was a picture of running horses, and had a fair amount of detail. I
    was completely, 100% blown away by what I saw. Had I not seen it with my
    own eyes, I would not have believed that it was possible to look that
    amazing at just two feet away when printed at that size.

    steve
     
    Steve Wolfe, Feb 22, 2006
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    Jim Guest

    I believe he said "digital photography". However, I do think if one
    was concerned about whether ones camera was good enough for "glossy"
    magazines and was considering publishing then by this point in time the
    photographer should have a pretty good idea of what the industry
    expects. My photography is not likely to get published in a high end
    magazine, and I find my 6.1 mp camera fine for the work I do.
     
    Jim, Feb 22, 2006
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    Derry Argue Guest

    Well, I seem to know more about photography than you do about reading
    English! Read my posts again -- I wrote "digital photoghaphy", not just
    "photography". Having a bad day?

    Derry
     
    Derry Argue, Feb 22, 2006
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    Derry Argue Guest

    Thank you, Eric, and others who replied. That is the sort of reply I
    needed. I will go ahead and buy the D200.

    I photograph wildlife/hunting scenes mostly to illustrate my own articles
    and there is nothing more annoying than getting some good shots which won't
    sell for some reason or other. Many of these will be opportunist.

    An example: I got a series of shots (actually a whole 36 exposure roll of
    35mm) of stoats fighting, mostly full frame. But they are all in black and
    white because the camera happened to be loaded for another job! However, I
    managed to sell a few to The Countryman Magazine which used to use b&w
    exclusively under the caption "Stoatal Warfare"! I am a writer first,
    photographer second.

    Now, if those shots had been in colour....

    Derry
     
    Derry Argue, Feb 22, 2006
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  14. One option is the search the reviews sites for full resolution D200 images.

    Compare those images to the scans you get from your film images.

    If you know the quality requirements of your target magazines, it should
    be easy to fingure out yourself whether or not the D200 is going to be good
    enough.
     
    Philip Homburg, Feb 22, 2006
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    Charles Self Guest

    Read it again. He knows little about DIGITAL photography. Nowhere did he say
    he knew little about photography.
     
    Charles Self, Feb 22, 2006
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    Charles Self Guest

    Most of the magazines I work for still tend to specify 35mm and MF
    photography, though they ALL except good digital work. At least for another
    few years, there's no need for any photographer to know anything about
    digital cameras to shoot for magazines.

    I'm using a Pentax *istD (6.1 MP) for my work now, and have had no problems
    with acceptance of shots for books and magazines. When Pentax offers a 10+
    MP DSLR, I'll probably upgrade, but for the average sized magazine shot,
    there's simply no current need--and there probably won't be a need in the
    future for anyone not shooting two page spreads.
     
    Charles Self, Feb 22, 2006
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    Charles Self Guest

    Jeez, I thought my last name was a pain in the butt on a by-line, but....

    Check out www.dpreview.com. That might be www.dpreviews.com. I tend to
    confuse them. They review cameras and, IIRC, have done the D200, as well as
    a host of others. I've been selling digital photos for a number of years
    now, with no problems. I think www.stevesdigicams.com is also a good site.
    Those two are the tops, but there are others.
     
    Charles Self, Feb 22, 2006
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  18. If you've been shooting 35mm, how much could you know?
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Feb 22, 2006
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    Charles Self Guest

     
    Charles Self, Feb 22, 2006
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    Charles Self Guest

    Do you recall George Burns' classic line to Gracie Allen when she said
    something of inspired stupidity? To paraphrase, "Say goodnight, Randy."
     
    Charles Self, Feb 22, 2006
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