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Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by tophatrus, Mar 12, 2006.

  1. tophatrus

    tophatrus Guest

    Thanks for everyone's advice on weather to go with the Nikon D50/ D70
    or Canon Rebel XT.
    I decided to go with the Nikon. It just had a better more solid feel.
    The D50 was the model I chose as an entry level. I liked the Tamaron
    18-200mm as my lense. Any pro's or con's on that combination would be
    appreciated.

    Now I have to find the best price for that package. I didn't find much
    difference among the various camera stores in the Los Angeles area, all
    hovering around the $1,000 range. I was amazed though at some prices
    on line. Here the body alone was like around $599. I found it on line
    thru CCI Camera City out of NY for $279! That's a big savings.
    Anything I should be leary about buying camera equipment via the mail
    etc.? Thanks in advance.
     
    tophatrus, Mar 12, 2006
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  2. Check CCI in reseller ratings.

    http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1734.html

    0.76 out of 10.0.

    What one customer said:

    3/7/06 11:22 AM
    Total dissastifaction with this vendor! If prices appear too good to
    be true, it is because they are. After the order was placed, they sean
    an email requesting call to "confirm" the online order and try to sell
    you additonal items that are normally included. They are cheating the
    public. I would recommend doing business elsewhere.

    If you like being ripped off do buy from them.

    I'm sure they will screw you over really good.


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    "A combat photographer should be able to make you see the
    color of blood in black and white"


    David Douglas Duncan
    Speaking on why in Vietnam
    he worked only in black and white
    http://www.hrc.utexas.edu/exhibitions/online/ddd/
     
    John A. Stovall, Mar 12, 2006
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  3. tophatrus

    tomm42 Guest

    If the price seems too good, it probably is.
    The D50 is a good choice, but the all focal length zoom are generally
    of poor quality, slow, I'd recommend getting two lenses to cover the
    range. The Nikon 18-70 kit lens has a decent reputation, then the Nikon
    70-210 4.5-5.6 is an OK lens. Better still a Tamron, or Tokina f2.8
    zoom of similar focal length. Also check out the Nikon 18-200 a lot of
    folks seem to like it. But generally the 12x zooms have terrible
    ratings.

    Tom
     
    tomm42, Mar 12, 2006
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  4. tophatrus

    tophatrus Guest

    Thanks John.
    Helps a lot.
     
    tophatrus, Mar 12, 2006
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    Jim Redelfs Guest

    That sounds about right for OTC retail.
    Oooooo! Wow! That IS a big savings! [feigned enthusiasm]
    Well, the price you got sounds too good to be true. By now, you know the rest
    of the old saying.

    B&H Photo lists the body only for $509.95. Having patronized them numerous
    times (all on-line orders) with NOT ONE issue, I'd buy from them in a
    heartbeat.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com

    Ask CCI Camera City if their price includes the battery, body cap, strap,
    manuals, etc., etc. I'll bet it doesn't. John A. Stovall's reply was most
    revealing (and, at the same time, annoying - with that GD sig!). [ducking]
     
    Jim Redelfs, Mar 12, 2006
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  6. tophatrus

    tophatrus Guest

    Thanks man for setting me straight. (feigned honesty)
     
    tophatrus, Mar 12, 2006
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    Charles Guest


    body $514.95 at Canoga Camera. Of course you'd have tax on top of
    that.
     
    Charles, Mar 12, 2006
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    george Guest

    By now you've been told about checking out sellers at
    www.resellerratings.com and how CCI is rated. Some things that may interest
    you:
    1) www.overstock.com just got in refurbished D50 w/lens for about the same
    price as you listed for legitimate new body only sales
    2) some other good vendors (based on my experience) are:
    www.bhphotovideo.com
    www.buydig.com & www.beachcamera.com (same company for both links)
    www.17photo.com
    www.calumetphoto.com
    www.normancamera.com
    www.onecall.com
    www.porters.com
    Some people also swear by www.adorama.com, I've only ordered from them once
    (a long time ago) and had a problem that took longer than I'd have liked to
    resolve and it looks like their rating at www.resellerratings.com has
    slipped a bit, but you may want to consider them. I've also ordered from
    www.focuscamera.com a few times without any problems, but it looks like my
    experiences may not have been typical from them based on others' reports.
    Also, Costco sells the D50. So, check out everybody legitimate and take
    your best deal...
     
    george, Mar 13, 2006
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  9. tophatrus

    tophatrus Guest

    Thanks George for the list. 17photo looks interesting. Has a good
    rating and reasonable price for the combo kit with both lenses.
     
    tophatrus, Mar 13, 2006
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Which lenses in that kit?
     
    Paul Furman, Mar 13, 2006
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  11. I got my D50 from Cord Camera from one of their ebay "buy-it-now" auctions.
    Great place to deal with.
     
    Peter A. Stavrakoglou, Mar 13, 2006
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  12. tophatrus

    tophatrus Guest

    The lenses are 18-55 and 55-200. From what I've read on this site,
    sounds like the 55-200 is a "dog".
    I'd like to get going this week with the purchase. Now that I've
    decided on the D50 body, just a matter of hooking up with the better
    lenses. I looked at a Tamaron 18-200. It gives a great range, just
    not sure about the quality I'd be getting with it. Seems the more
    research I do the more options I find. Just as it should be I guess.
    Watch I'll end up with a throw away 35mm. :)
     
    tophatrus, Mar 13, 2006
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  13. tophatrus

    tophatrus Guest

    The lenses are 18-55 and 55-200. From what I've read on this site,
    sounds like the 55-200 is a "dog".
    I'd like to get going this week with the purchase. Now that I've
    decided on the D50 body, just a matter of hooking up with the better
    lenses. I looked at a Tamaron 18-200. It gives a great range, just
    not sure about the quality I'd be getting with it. Seems the more
    research I do the more options I find. Just as it should be I guess.
    Watch I'll end up with a throw away 35mm. :)
     
    tophatrus, Mar 13, 2006
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  14. tophatrus

    tophatrus Guest

    Thanks Peter, I'll check out Cord Camera in a minute. What lenses
    would you recommend? I'm told the Tamaron's are better than Sigma's.
    I know Nikor is the real way to go, just how big a difference is there
    in the image quality?
     
    tophatrus, Mar 13, 2006
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    nrh Guest

    In
    It's called 'Bait and Switch'. They bait you with these super-low prices,
    and when they have your attention, they make your life hell trying to get
    you to pay for extras to bump up the price. Then, when you insist on having
    the item at the advertised price, they suddenly state it is out of stock.
    yeah, right!

    </Look into my eyes, into my eyes, look into my eyes, not around the eyes,
    but look into my eyes.>

    %-)

    Nigel
     
    nrh, Mar 13, 2006
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    george Guest

    I haven't ordered from the following, but I've read a lot of postings saying
    good things about them:

    www.robertsimaging.com
     
    george, Mar 13, 2006
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  17. tophatrus

    Paul Furman Guest

    The two lens kit is still probably considerably better than the tamron
    17-200 though. That might be very reasonable if you aren't planning to
    ever get $1,700 lenses or mess around with a bunch of old manual focus
    primes.
     
    Paul Furman, Mar 13, 2006
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    GF3 Guest

    The 18-55 is the best zoom in it's class. 55 at 1.5x=82.5mm full frame 35mm.
    If you also need a true telezoom, I would look at the 75-300 or 80-200
    offerings.
     
    GF3, Mar 13, 2006
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  19. It's tough to argue with a Nikkor lens but there are some good third party
    lenses. Some may even be better than their Nikkor counterparts. The only
    problem with most Nikkor's comapred to third party lenses is the cost but
    the investment seems to be worthwhile.

    I do not yet have any Nikkor lenses. I bought my D50 body only from Cord.
    I purchased separately a Tokina 28-70mm AT-X lens. I am very happy with it,
    it's build-quality is second-to-none. The image quality is very good.
    Here's one I like taken with this lens
    http://ntotrr.smugmug.com/photos/50519191-M.jpg

    I was able to pick up to other lenses on the cheap via eBay - a Tamron
    28-200mm and a Sigma 70-300mm APO. The Tamron is for my wife to use when
    she does the snapshots at family events, etc. It's a fine lens considering
    it cost me $ 69.00 and it is very compact, that's the main reason for
    picking it up. It has a long range for the snapshots it will be used for
    and it works well http://ntotrr.smugmug.com/photos/58881883-M.jpg

    The Sigma 70-300mm APO is the best bang-for-your buck long zoom. It will
    cost you less than $ 200.00, but make sure it is the APO version, the
    non-APO version is adequate at best. Here's one
    http://ntotrr.smugmug.com/photos/59788546-M.jpg.

    I have a Sigma DSLR so I've got a bit of experience with Sigma lenses. Some
    of their EX lenses are excellent, IMO. I've got the 50mm EX macro, the
    105mm EX macro, the 17-35mm EX, and the 24-70mm EX. The 50mm and the 105mm
    macros are very sharp. This was taken with the 50mm EX macro, the 105 mm is
    just as sharp http://ntotrr.smugmug.com/photos/9540650-M.jpg. The 17-35mm
    EX is good, not great. The newer version being sold is supposedly better.
    The 24-70mm EX is a great walk-around lens. It hardly spends any time off
    of my SD9. It's a good choice for the D50, IMO and I would have bought one
    except I couldn't spare the extra change so I went for the Tokina which was
    much less. Here's one taken with the 24-70mm EX
    http://ntotrr.smugmug.com/photos/30824225-M.jpg.
     
    Peter A. Stavrakoglou, Mar 14, 2006
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  20. tophatrus

    tophatrus Guest

    Thanks for that web site, (robertsimaging.com). I'm narrowing the
    list. I decided on going with the D50 with the 18-70mm lense. That
    seemed to be a good way to go for entry level.

    The Tamaron was a much more convenient lense but for roughly the same
    price everyone told me the Nikon would be the best way to go by far.
     
    tophatrus, Mar 14, 2006
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