Making money at stock photography web sites

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by john, Feb 11, 2006.

  1. john

    john Guest

    What do you guys think of these stock photography sites?

    http://submit.shutterstock.com/?ref=59350

    ....and...

    http://www.bigstockphoto.com/?refid=wdaph9OGqi

    I guy I work with says he's making tons of money just for uploading
    photos he already has in his portfolio. I don't have any "stock
    photography" types of photos in my portfolio, but I was thinking about
    getting into it. Before I start wasting a lot of time on something
    that's not going to pay off, I thought I'd check with the group to see
    if people are really making as much money as they say. Sounds too
    easy.

    Thanks,
    John
     
    john, Feb 11, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    Heh. Ref ids and everything.
     
    Paul Mitchum, Feb 12, 2006
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    Helen Guest

    And multiposting. Guy must think we're as stupid as he is.
     
    Helen, Feb 12, 2006
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    C J Southern Guest

    Obvious advertising aside, what's the issue?

    It appears to me like the worst thing that could happen is that you won't
    make money on photos that aren't making you any money at the moment anyway.
     
    C J Southern, Feb 12, 2006
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    Paul Mitchum Guest

    The original poster cited URLS which had reference IDs, presumably his
    or her own. Meaning the whole point of the post was to lure you into
    looking at the site so that he (or she) would get some kind of referall
    bonus.
     
    Paul Mitchum, Feb 12, 2006
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    Helen Guest

    Isn't that an issue? I think it is.

    Where do you get the 'you'? Reply to the OPs message, not mine.
    But, since you replied to me, I'll answer - I'm doing very nicely indeed
    from 'proper' agencies, thanks very much, those that pay in the hundreds of
    dollars per sale, not those that pay 4 cents or something per sale. And I
    don't need to spam NGs to drive potential buyers to my stuff.
     
    Helen, Feb 12, 2006
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    C J Southern Guest

    I know that - hence the reason I said "obvious advertising aside". What I'm
    saying is "just because it's an ad, doesn't mean to say it can't benefit
    someone other than the OP".

    Personally, I don't have a problem with it.
     
    C J Southern, Feb 12, 2006
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    C J Southern Guest

    I don't have a problem when it's relevant and has the potential to offer
    possible benefits for all/other parties.
    It's a generic "you", not aimed at yourself.
    I'll reply to any post I care to - thank you very much.

    I was making the polite point that for myself - and I suspect others - there
    can still be value in what was originally posted, even though it's an ad.
    "Don't judge the signpost, but look at the direction it's pointing".

    As you've got other more profitable arrangements that work for you then
    obviously it's not something that's going to appeal to you - I'm sure many
    others here wouldn't be in such a position - so for them, such an ad is an
    opportunity if they care to follow up on it.
     
    C J Southern, Feb 12, 2006
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    Tesco News Guest

    Hi all.

    It strikes me that these sites which offer "referral" fees, can only afford
    to pay out if the people who have been referred spend money on the site, or
    the site owners can get money for selling the addresses of the visitors, or
    some other sort of underhand activity.

    There is no way they will pay fees if there is nothing in it for them.

    It seems just like a very cheap pyramid scheme.

    Roy G
     
    Tesco News, Feb 12, 2006
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    john Guest

    Boy, I got you all riled up. RILED UP!!! Wow. Why don't you learn a
    little bit about the web sites before making vague accusations? These
    web sites...
    http://submit.shutterstock.com/?ref=59350
    ....and...
    http://www.bigstockphoto.com/?refid=wdaph9OGqi
    ....are very well regarded. People seem to love them! It's tons of fun
    to upload your photography and then log in periodically to see how many
    times they're downloaded thereby generating revenue. The only reason
    for my post was that I was looking for unbiased testimonials from
    people who have actually made money with these sites. I want to know
    if it's worth my time. My photography is not typically useful as
    "stock photography," and I don't want to spend time shooting stuff if
    it doesn't pay off. I was really just looking for some anecdotes.

    As for the motivation of such sites to pay referral bonuses... That is
    a win-win proposition. The money that the sites pay in the form of
    referral bonuses is a very affordable way to attract new photographers,
    thereby increasing inventory of stock photography, thereby attracting
    more paying subscribers and increasing downloads, thereby increasing
    revenue. And of course the photographer who refers other photographers
    beneftis from the referral bonus. The referred photographer benefits
    because they have learned about a resource that they did not previously
    know about. And since it's free for all photographers to sign
    up--referred or not--it is actually a win-win-win proposition.

    It's good to be a skeptic, but that skepticism should be tempered with
    a healthy dose of objectivity, rationalism, common sense, and a
    reasonable level of intelligence.

    Now does anyone have any actual experience making money with these
    sites? If so, please comment. If not, please check out
    alt.pessimists.timewasters.

    - John
     
    john, Feb 12, 2006
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    john Guest

    Ah! An rational and objective critical thinker! How refreshing.
    Thank you.

    - John
     
    john, Feb 12, 2006
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    Tesco News Guest


    Wow.

    A whole 20 cents (US) per download of your work. (That is how much in real
    money 13 Pence UK ?)

    It probably cost you more for the Electricity used while you were
    downloading from the Camera and uploading to their site.

    No wonder thay are willing to offer bribes, sorry incentives, to you for
    every photographer you get to sign up.

    Roy G
     
    Tesco News, Feb 12, 2006
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    Helen Guest

    Which is probably all they're worth. These sites are the final refuge of
    hopefuls who were rejected by the proper stock agencies or who don't have
    cameras capable of producing 50Mb TIFFs.

    H
     
    Helen, Feb 12, 2006
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    KatWoman Guest

    AMEN to that
    Never was a big fan of stock it cuts assignment photogs out of work but
    eventually I
    went with a traditional type stock agency and the prices you get nowadays
    for pictures really suck. But $14.00 to use a photo in Indonesia still
    beats 20 cents. And I get to see who is using my pictures and the rights are
    being watched.

    Sorry to the OP if some of us sound negative about these type sites. Many of
    us are really tired of hearing "do it for the glory, credit, your book",
    some of us are less than excited about getting our work sold for 20 cents
    when we know how much experience and knowledge it takes to make great
    images. We like to eat and have money for our bills too. We like to be
    compensated FAIRLY for our work, we do not like seeing poor quality
    photography sites that accept any anyone. It degrades our profession in
    general and creates unrealistic expectations for our clients. Photographers
    who offer such low-ball prices do a disservice to all of us.
     
    KatWoman, Feb 15, 2006
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