Manual for Seal 160M Dry Mount Press?

Discussion in 'Darkroom Developing and Printing' started by Mr Bluto, Nov 18, 2003.

  1. Mr Bluto

    Mr Bluto Guest

    Does anyone have an instruction manual for a Seal 160M dry mount press, or
    know where/how I can get one? I recently bought a used one, and while I
    realize it is not a complicated piece of equipment, it would be nice to have
    a manual. Electronic version would be best, but good ol' fashioned paper
    works for me too.

    Thanks.

    Signed,
    A new darkroom news group guy
    Russ

     
    Mr Bluto, Nov 18, 2003
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    Tom Phillips Guest

    I don't think I ever bothered with the manual. But Seal is no longer
    Seal; they were bought and the name changed. Free electronic versions I
    know not of, but maybe www.craigcamera.com/ib_s.htm has one if you
    really want to pay for it.
     
    Tom Phillips, Nov 18, 2003
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    Dick Guest

    I am in the same boat with an older Jumbo 150 and could not find a manual
    anywhere. Who bought them and what is the name change?

    Dick
     
    Dick, Nov 18, 2003
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    Alecj Guest

    Seal is alive and well, albeit under a new name, in North Carolina. They
    have an excellent on-line document source, or the technical section will be
    happy to provide you with what you need.

    Go here:

    http://www.forframersonly.com/
     
    Alecj, Nov 18, 2003
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  5. Mr Bluto

    Dick Guest

    Thanks, those same folks who make a great paper for making platinem
    palladium prints.

    Dick
     
    Dick, Nov 19, 2003
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    ktphotonics Guest

    Interestingly, looking at the tips section, they don't recommend dry
    mounting for archival or conversation work. Looks like a cop out, in case
    someone sues.

    Chris Woodhouse
     
    ktphotonics, Nov 19, 2003
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    Dick Guest

    I know, could never understand that . . . although there is a difference of
    opinion on that. The Weston Gallery, in Carmel, dry mounts all their stuff.
    I think hat there is a false esthetic that say that if it is not removable
    from its mount then it cannot be original and pure. I guess that if one is
    willing to re-flatten and remount all ones pictures every couple of years
    that is acceptable (or keep perfect heat and humidity settings year round).

    Resin coated prints are different, they stay reasonably flat.

    Dick
     
    Dick, Nov 20, 2003
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  8. I think this phobia about dry mounting is just a fad, like calling
    regular photographic prints gelatino-bromide prints (though it is true,
    it is a silly affectation IMAO).

    Does anyone really think Ansel Adams' prints would be more valuable, or
    last longer, had he not dry mounted? He even felt the dry mount tissue
    protected the print from possible contamination of the mounting board
    (though why he worried about that, if he did, with the high quality
    mounting board he used, I would not know). My guess is that dry mounting
    makes the prints stay flatter, and keeps them from damage.

    I think musueum curators worry about a poorly fixed and washed print
    that they want to be able to remove from the mount and re-fix and
    re-wash. Maybe some of Alfred Steiglitz's prints: he thought you could
    run 1000 8x10 prints through a gallon of fixer (or so it is said). But
    no current fine-artist would do something like that. Somehow, I doubt
    the Metropolitan Museum of Art would do that to a Steiglitz print even
    if they could get it off the mount board (which they could with a
    suitable solvent; the only problem would be if he retouched the prints
    with something that the solven might dissolve).
     
    Jean-David Beyer, Nov 20, 2003
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  9. Nicholas O. Lindan, Nov 20, 2003
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    Mark A Guest

    I think this phobia about dry mounting is just a fad, like calling
    For museum curators, the issue is mostly about storage and transportation.
    Museums only display a very small percentage of their inventory at any one
    time. It is much easier to store and handle the unmounted prints without
    risk of damage.

    Transporting prints to other galleries is another reason for their
    preference of unmounted prints. It is very expensive to build crates that
    one can absolutely guarantee 100% of the time that the shipping companies
    will not crease. Not to mention that mounted prints are much larger than
    unmounted ones.
     
    Mark A, Nov 20, 2003
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  11. Mr Bluto

    Mr Bluto Guest

    Hey Thanks!!
    Russ
     
    Mr Bluto, Nov 23, 2003
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  12. Mr Bluto

    Mr Bluto Guest

    Hey Thanks. Craig Camera does have one for $15. I looked there before, but
    must have missed it. I'm going to e-mail the Seal Co. (now Beinfang) first
    though just to see if I can get one from them cheaper ...or even free.
    Russ
     
    Mr Bluto, Nov 23, 2003
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  13. Mr Bluto

    Mr Bluto Guest

    By the way, I ended up e-mailing Seal (now Hunt, not Beinfang), and they
    sent me a *.pdf version of the manual. Only 4 pages, but great to know
    there are a few companies left who don't charge for everything!
     
    Mr Bluto, Nov 26, 2003
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  14. Seal is now owned by Bienfang, a division of the Hunt
    Corporation. Their web site is: http://www.hunt-corp.com/
    Click on "For Framers Only" Its not a well designed web
    site so you will have to poke around it a bit.
    I don't know if they still have instructions for older
    products but its worth a try.
     
    Richard Knoppow, Nov 27, 2003
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