micro 4/3rd camera launched from Panasonic

Discussion in 'Panasonic Lumix' started by RichA, Sep 12, 2008.

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    RichA Guest

    RichA, Sep 12, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    Wrong group, this is rec.photo.digital.slr-systems. The micro 4:3 is not a
    Guest, Sep 13, 2008
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    RichA Guest

    Thing to remember is not to confine a group to a single format rigidly
    or it slowly loses relevance.
    RichA, Sep 13, 2008
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    me Guest

    Just kill file the OP and be a lot happier.
    me, Sep 13, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    The low resolution of electronic view finders limits their usefulness.
    Ray Fischer, Sep 13, 2008
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    Doug Jewell Guest

    As does the image lag, the lack of phase-detect auto-focus,
    the increased shutter lag, and the poor performance in
    There is nothing wrong with both (live-view on my 450D can
    be quite handy), but i'd hate to be crippled into having
    only an EVF.
    Doug Jewell, Sep 14, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    I believe that the highest resolution display on a camera is less than 1MP.
    Snerk. Sure they do. Uh huh.

    Say, would you like to know about a really great deal on this pretty
    orange-painted bridge near here?
    You're no computer scientists, are you?
    And my car can move at over 100MPH.

    Why? Do you want to know why a GPS unit is not a camera?
    And do you know they don't already?
    Ray Fischer, Sep 14, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Ray Fischer, Sep 14, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Probably not.
    AF would find it easy to focus. Plenty of sharp, high-contrast edges.
    Which are in approximately zero cameras.
    And which is done automatically by every compiler in the the world.
    Your suggestion is like telling somebody on a diet that they can lose
    weight by cutting out that daily grape from their diet.

    That manual is written for compiler writers. It's not a programming
    manual. But that still doesn't address the issue of the memory and
    processing requirements needed to handle some 45MB of data.
    I am a software engineer with some 30 years of experience as well as
    a computer science graduate degree from Stanford. I am not being
    disparaging when I say that you haven't a clue. A camera's power,
    memory, physical space, and cost limitations make it infeasable to
    provide a live zoom of the actual image.
    It's all done with highly customized chips that do nothing but process
    GPS signals.
    Ray Fischer, Sep 15, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    So we have yet another nym of Richard Anderson (RichA aka Rich) that he uses
    to escape the killfile.
    Guest, Sep 16, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    The problem is still that a 15MP image uses some 45MB of memory and
    that the processor has to scale the image. That's a lot of memory and
    a lot of data to process.
    And would run down a battery in no time, aside from the fact that
    there is no way that you could fit it into a camera or dissipate the
    heat generated.
    Again, you're telling me stuff I already know.
    "Low power" for a laptop is high power for a camera. There is a
    reason camera makers use specialized processors.
    Are you a EE?


    Then pardon me if I don't consider your opinion to be worth anything.
    Ray Fischer, Sep 17, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    Blow me you obnoxious Canadian arsehole troll :p
    Guest, Sep 17, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    You're an idiot.
    2GB, to be exact. Not even enough to store one compressed JPEG image
    from an 8MP camera.
    And STILL not suitable for a camera.
    It must seem that way to you.
    Name one.
    Ray Fischer, Sep 18, 2008
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    Mark Thomas Guest

    Ray, this is *seriously* funny. You are a (sic) EE and you think an 8Mp
    jpeg needs more than 2Gb?

    Been around cameras long?


    At all?

    I see you are making new friends wherever you go, and dropping little
    hints like this one that you are a few snags short of a bbq.

    Do carry on, Ray. You're cute when you get angry.
    Mark Thomas, Sep 18, 2008
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    One wonders why any one of several electronics companies haven't hired
    you at a mid-seven-figure salary to design the electronics in their
    cameras. After all, you seem to believe that you know more about the
    subject that all of those highly-trained electronics engineers.
    Ray Fischer, Sep 19, 2008
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