Mini DV Tapes (do I need to erase before re-using?

Discussion in 'Video Cameras' started by melianbriggs, Feb 5, 2007.

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    G Hardy Guest

    Yep - not that it matters, or is any excuse for my bad attribution.
    G Hardy, Feb 6, 2007
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    JTS Guest

    JTS, Feb 6, 2007
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    Degaussers are still commercially sold, and are used where security is
    an issue. Degausser models are available for all media, including audio
    and digital tape as well as hard drives, See
    for commercial units.

    Which reminds me...

    I don't know if the procedure is still used in these days of GPS, but
    for decades (since the early days of metal-hulled ships) naval ships
    were periodically degaussed.

    Because ships spend most of their time sailing east-west (rather than
    north-south) the hulls would build up residual magnetism which affected
    their magnetic compasses. In various places there were degaussing cables
    mounted on the sea bed. Periodically (every 12 months for the Royal
    Navy) they would sail over these cables (which carried AC current) in
    various directions to degauss the hulls.

    Degaussing was usually done at the same time as the magnetic compass
    compensators were adjusted. I do know of two degaussing areas, one in
    the Straights of Jahore and one in Plymouth Sound. I remember the
    Bulwark, the Albion and the Ark Royal carriers having to be held and
    turned using tugs in the Straights of Jahore because the channel wasn't
    wide enough for them to be sailed around in circles over the degaussing
    cable This was in the mid-sixties BTW.
    Tony Morgan, Feb 6, 2007
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    Spooky... I've never ever seen a directive in any camcorder manual which
    tells you not to :)

    Actually having re-read what I said - I should have said "... on its
    lens hood". And I've been doing it for more than seven years (since
    analogue days) on my various camcorders and I've had no problems.
    Tony Morgan, Feb 6, 2007
  5. Why bother reusing it? Why not just concider the tape as a backup and
    start using a new tape?

    Morten L.Pedersen, Feb 7, 2007
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    melianbriggs Guest

    Ok Everyone - Wow!

    I am the person who originally requested some info around what to do
    regarding wanting to re-use my (finished with) miniDV tape. I didn't
    expect this topic to generate so much interest, or in my case

    So to be honest I am still unsure (having followed the discussions) as
    to what to do in order to re-use my tape. I am totally new to digital
    camcorders, and for that matter fairly new to any camcorder! Please be
    Gentle with me!

    melianbriggs, Feb 7, 2007
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    G Hardy Guest

    This group has some excellent minds, and the regular tendency to wander off
    into flame wars when those minds disagree. It gets quite vitriolic
    sometimes, and occasionally people wander off for a few weeks to sulk, but
    we usually come back... :eek:)

    Reusing tapes is a matter of preference. If you have the budget to be able
    to do it, by all means do. If you can't justify the cost based on your need
    to keep the footage, don't do it.

    There's no need to stripe your tape (erase it by recording with the lens cap
    on), unless your capture program has problems with unrecorded sections. It
    might be prudent to do so to avoid accidentally including inappropriate
    footage from the previous recording in your current edit.
    G Hardy, Feb 7, 2007
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    Nik Guest

    Usenet is good at confusing discussions, and not so good at stragiht
    answers. Less friendly newsgroups tend to blame the person who raised
    the question for this ;-)

    Most people on this NG probably don't reuse tapes - they work on the
    basis that they may need to recapture the footage at some point and that
    at £1 each they're worth keeping.

    If you do want to re-use the tape, there's no need to do anything other
    than rewind it. It is possible, however, to record over your previous
    footage with a blank image if you wish.

    The possible benefit of recording over your footage is that it tells the
    camera there on the tape it is. If you want to do this, simply put the
    lens-cap on the camera and set it to record. In a darkened room, if you
    wish. For home video footage, it's unlikely to be worth the small
    amount of effort involved. The small amount of effort involved is
    unlikely to be worth the £1 or so saved.


    Nik, Feb 7, 2007
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    G Hardy Guest

    Where do you get yours?????
    G Hardy, Feb 7, 2007
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    :Jerry: Guest

    As someone else has said, all you really need to do is rewind the tape
    and over record what was already on the tape. *But* depending on
    previous content you might prefer to 'blank' the tape before reuse -
    for example if you are going to record similar content to what was
    recorded before (or the previous content was for select eyes only [1],
    thus risking mixing old and new footage, especially if you tend to use
    the cameras review / end search abilities were you could easily over
    run the new content into old.

    [1] don't laugh, I heard of cases were (shall we say) personal, adult,
    content has cropped up in the middle of Great Aunt Ethel's garden
    party or little Jimmy's birthday party footage!...
    :Jerry:, Feb 7, 2007
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    Nik Guest

    Amazon: £0.99 singly, or £4 for a 3-pack. Sony Premium Mini-DV.

    Nik, Feb 7, 2007
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    G Hardy Guest

    It never occurred to me to buy tapes there! The Panasonic tapes I use are
    even cheaper than 99p...
    G Hardy, Feb 7, 2007
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    JTS Guest

    plus £4.50 postage!
    JTS, Feb 7, 2007
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    :Jerry: Guest

    Err, so it's more expensive to buy a pack of three than to buy 3
    individual tape at the same time?! Also, as someone else pointed out,
    you need to consider the P&P costs...
    :Jerry:, Feb 7, 2007
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    Tony Morgan Guest

    Deja Vu. Sounds like the beginnings of another issue that periodically
    raises its head :)

    i.e. Whether to use cheap crappy tapes, or be kind to your
    camcorder and pay a little more for quality tapes ......
    Tony Morgan, Feb 7, 2007
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    Nik Guest

    They're Sony Premium. I asked next door in r.v.desktop a few days ago
    and the advice was to carry on using them.

    Nik, Feb 7, 2007
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    Nik Guest

    That's what it says. As for the P&P. it does annoy me that Amazon sell
    these things for other sellers - one of the benefits of Amazon is that
    they're P&P-free at a very reasonable spend.

    I think the Amazon-sold ones (hence qualify for free P&P) are £12 for 10.

    Nik, Feb 7, 2007
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    :Jerry: Guest

    Seems to me that the Amazon price (12 UKP for 10 tapes and free P&P)
    is better value if the other trader wants 4.50 UKP for postage, do the
    maths yourself....
    :Jerry:, Feb 7, 2007
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    Nik Guest

    Single tapes are cheaper as long as you buy at least 23 of them. That's
    why places sell things in multipacks, to make it cheaper for people who
    only want small numbers of things.

    Isn't it?
    Nik, Feb 7, 2007
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    G Hardy Guest

    Most people on this NG probably don't reuse tapes - they work on the
    I thought the £1 tapes Nik was directing us to were the same ones you use in
    your camera...?
    G Hardy, Feb 7, 2007
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