minidv tapes - anything longer than 60 minutes?

Discussion in 'Amateur Video Production' started by GS, Feb 21, 2004.

  1. GS

    GS Guest

    I've been googling this topic for a while, and I can't seem to find the answer that I want to
    hear. :)

    I want to record from my tivo onto my ZR10 (to eventually end up on the pc), and it works
    great...for any recordings one hour or less in duration. If the recording is > 60 minutes,
    I'm not really sure what'll happen.

    Are there any other minidv tape solutions that allow > 60 minutes? I know I can use LP mode
    to get 90 minutes, but I've read about problems with dropped frames and overall lack of
    quality in LP mode.

    Thanks for any advice.
    Gary
     
    GS, Feb 21, 2004
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    jdcarswell Guest

    Sony, Panasonic, Canon, Fujifilm & Emtec all make 80 minute mini DV tapes.
    Panasonic also makes a "Pro" 83 minute tape. Just bought a box but haven't
    tried them out yet. The tape is thinner, which in theory makes it more
    susceptable to stretching etc. The prudent approach is record on them once,
    then archive the tapes.

    LP mode provides the same quality as SP, but the data is packed more densely
    onto the tape and so there's a greater risk of a write or read error.
    There's also an increased likelihood that the tape will only play back
    properly using the VTR or camcorder on which it was originally recorded.
     
    jdcarswell, Feb 21, 2004
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  3. Archiving in LP-mode is not a good idea, but if for short-term use,
    the results are likely identical to SP mode and OK (dropout rate may
    increase, and tapes may not be playable on other gear, though). Sony and
    Panasonic make the tape for most brands, but I still would avoid mixing
    brands (or especially the top-end Panasonics with ANYTHING else!)
    to avoid head-clog problems. Both Panasonic and Sony make 80-minute
    tapes (120 in LP-mode). For D8, Sony makes 90-minute tapes that
    give you about 137 minutes in LP-mode (the D8 camera can be
    FireWire-connected to a better camera for long tape run-time).
     
    David Ruether, Feb 21, 2004
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  4. I used a Sony 80 minute, SP speed, and there were dropouts in the
    first minute of tape. Brand new from the box. Good thing that I ran
    the tape more than a minute before any critical action ;-)

    Yeah, using LP with 80 minute tape would be riskier, but it would
    give you 120 minute recording time.

    Shoot, then digitize using the original camcorder.

    I didn't try my tape that way. I could have got the camcorder and
    used it, but since the video wasn't vital I forgot about trying that.


    Another option, if your Tivo and computer are close enough, is to
    run the video into the camcorder, then firewire into PC, and digitize
    direct to the hard drive. If your system is stable for video editing,
    this would work just fine and allow you recording time equal to hard
    drive space.
     
    Jeffery S. Jones, Feb 22, 2004
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