Minolta 7D - how to use wireless 5600HSD flash

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by JohnR, Oct 17, 2005.

  1. JohnR

    JohnR Guest

    Hi, I just got the KM 7d and love it. Only one thing bugs me. When using
    the 5600HSD flash in wireless remote mode it seems that the main on camera
    flash fires just enough to signal the remote flash and not enough to
    properly expose the subject. The result is that the remote flash becomes
    the 'main' flash and produces harsh shadows. I would like to know if
    there is any way I can "balance" the remote flash with the on camera flash
    to produce a more balanced photo. Also, I like to use a wireless flash
    behind the main subject to properly expose the background while the on
    camera flash properly exposes the main subject. I can't find a way to do it
    with the 7D and 5600HSD. The background gets exposed perfectly and the main
    subject is WAY underexposed. I read that there is some sort of 'Ratio'
    CAMERAS!!! I really can't believe that a camera with such superior design
    would overlook this situation.

    I emailed KM support to ask if maybe a firmware update would correct this
    situation, but they never replied..... so much for customer service...

    Am I overlooking something? Does anybody have any advice about how I can
    workaround this problem? All suggestions graciously received.

    Thanks, John
    JohnR, Oct 17, 2005
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    Mike Warren Guest

    I can't offer any advice on the 7D but the Nikon D70 does the
    same thing i romte commander mode. Nikon suggest using 2
    or 3 flash units for their "Creative Lighting System".
    Mike Warren, Oct 17, 2005
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    Mike Warren Guest

    That should be:
    Mike Warren, Oct 17, 2005
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    Jer Guest

    There is a "power ratio" setting in the 7D's Recording branch of the
    main menu, intended for manual flash control when using a non-ADI lenses
    with off-camera flash. The book has a GN chart for calculating exposure
    for different ISO and aperture combinations. I'm sure you've already
    seen the power level setting on the 5600 menu.
    Jer, Oct 17, 2005
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    JohnR Guest

    Hi Jer,

    Yes, I saw that setting, however you must set the flash control to
    manual for the power ration option to become available, and when you set the
    flash control to manual then you disable the 'wireless' setting in the flash
    mode....you can't set 'manual' and 'wireless' at the same time, so I'm back
    to my original problem....

    JohnR, Oct 18, 2005
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    Jasen Guest

    Hi. I recenty bought the 7D too and I also love it. I don't have the
    5600HS flash though, yet!
    Just reading the manual it states that the on camera flash does not
    illuminate the subject when used for remote wireless firing, so my guess is
    that you might need a second flash unit to cover your needs?
    I'll be interested in any updates on this issue.
    Jasen, Oct 19, 2005
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    Jasen Guest

    Can you also use the 3600HS and the 5600HS flashes on the minolta film
    Jasen, Oct 19, 2005
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    JohnR Guest

    I spoke to one of the product managers at KM and he said that they can't
    have a control to balance the wireless and on camera flash because of
    technical reasons. Something about the amount of flash required being
    calculated before the shutter even opens. Oh, well. Another thing he said
    that was MOST interesting was that KM was so concerned about how the
    Cannon's firmware was being 'hacked' that they 'burned' the firmware into
    the maxxum 7D. What that means is that the Maxxum 7D firmware can never be
    upgraded or changed... what you have is what you will always have.

    JohnR, Oct 30, 2005
  9. He didn't know what he was talking about.


    There's already and upgrade for the 7D out.

    Didn't you think about checking rather than trusting some minimum wage
    slave in a camera store.


    "A combat photographer should be able to make you see the
    color of blood in black and white"

    David Douglas Duncan
    Speaking on why in Vietnam
    he worked only in black and white
    John A. Stovall, Oct 31, 2005
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    Stephen Guest

    So, the thousands of 7D owners didn't upgrade the firmware earlier
    this year?

    Stephen, Oct 31, 2005
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