Minolta Close Up Lens

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by [email protected] Sadovyy, Oct 6, 2003.

  1. Hi there.

    I wanna buy some equipment for macro photography. But to buy special macro
    lens is too expensive for me... I found out something named as "Minolta 55mm
    #2 Close-up Lens". Where I can get some technical specs of this lens? Or
    maybe somebody using this stuff? What I get when will use it with 28-80
    (3.5-5.6) kit lens ?

    Thank you.
     
    [email protected] Sadovyy, Oct 6, 2003
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    Jeremy Guest

    x-no-archive: yes
    A lens adapter will let you focus at closer distances from your subjects,
    but it is not exactly macro photography. Macro lenses are optimized for
    sharpness at distances less than infinity. They are optimized for
    flat-field subjects (like manuscripts or other 2-dimensional objects). They
    are corrected for proper recording of straight lines (to avoid pincushion or
    barrel distortion). They are generally optimized for high contrast, as that
    increases apparent sharpness.

    Depending upon your intended use, you may be able to get away with a
    close-up adapter on a standard lens, rather than a "real" macro lens. For
    example, if you are shooting flowers or insects, the close-up adapter might
    be fine.

    But if you really want to do macro photography correctly, a macro lens is
    essential. As with virtually everything photographic, you must determine if
    the tradeoff between cost and utility is worth it.

    My point is that an adapter is not the equivalent of a real macro lens--it
    is a compromise--and you must decide for yourself if you can live with its
    limitations.
     
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    Simon Guest

    You could try a google search for them or users, which should give you a
    start,
    but even the minolta web-site didn't seem to have any technical info on
    them.

    Have you considered extension tubes as an alternative? - no extra glass
    to
    get in the way to distort the picture, but you'll lose a bit of light
    with
    the extension.

    Simon.
     
    Simon, Oct 6, 2003
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    Mark Roberts Guest

    Assuming that you're talking about Minolta part # 6031550, all you need
    to know is that it's an achromatic (two element) close-up lens with a
    focal length of +3.8 diopters. It's intended to be used with lenses of
    50mm focal length or shorter (Minolta does make other close-up
    attachments for lenses of longer focal length).

    See http://www.angelfire.com/ca/erker/closeups.html
     
    Mark Roberts, Oct 6, 2003
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    Colyn Guest

    You're waisting your money on one of these lens.

    Macro on a shoestring can be done with good lens at a reasonable price
    such as the Minolta 35-70mm f/3.5 with macro 1:4 - 1:7 or Vivitar has
    a 70-210mm f/4.5 which allows 1:1 macro focusing. Both lens can be had
    for $30-60 each..


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    Adam F Guest


    I concur. Would also recommend a Minolta 50/1.7 (~$30) + suitable extension
    tube (~$10). I have tried this and the 35-70/4, and the 50mm + ext. tube is
    sharper (of course), but the zoom is great for when you're out taking normal
    pics and suddenly see something you want to take close up.

    HTH

    Adam F
     
    Adam F, Oct 7, 2003
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  7. Have you considered extension tubes as an alternative? - no extra glass
    Hmm, it is idea... But it seens that extension tubes is more expensive
    solution (tubes set cost near 150$ versus 40$ for lens set)...
    Anyway I'll keep it in mind, thank you.
     
    [email protected] Sadovyy, Oct 7, 2003
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  8. I concur. Would also recommend a Minolta 50/1.7 (~$30) + suitable
    extension
    Are you tolking about MD\MC or AF? I have Maxxum 5 body... If you are
    tolking about Maxxum compatible lens, where are I can buy Minolta 50/1.7 for
    ~$30 (and tube for ~$10)?

    Thank you.
     
    [email protected] Sadovyy, Oct 7, 2003
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  9. You're waisting your money on one of these lens.
    Are these lens Maxxum-compatible? If yes where are I can buy some of these
    lens with this price?
     
    [email protected] Sadovyy, Oct 7, 2003
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  10. Look at Minolta 50mm macro lenses. You have two option: 50mm f2.8 1:1 or
    50mm f3.5 1:2. The latter is cheaper. Look at the used market, you can get
    one for less than $100.

    Elie
     
    Elie A Shammas, Oct 7, 2003
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    I think that poster was talking about old MD manual focus lenses. I have
    never seen a used 50/1.7 for less than $40.

    With extension tubes, you only need one, not a whole set. Deciding which
    is the hard part. The longer your lens, the longer the tube should be.

    On the other hand, extension tubes are kind of a pain. With one on,
    your lens will focus only at short distances, never at infinity. This
    makes is somewhat painful to switch shots.

    One low-priced alternative is the Vivitar (Cosina) 100mm f/3.5 macro,
    which goes 1:2 without the included diopter, and 1:1 with it. New the
    cost is $140, and you should be able to get one used for half that.
    Optical quality is very good; build quality is fair. Most photographers
    use 50mm macros only for copy stand work, preferring 100mm macros
    in the field.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Oct 7, 2003
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    Colyn Guest

    I don't use auto focus but would think they are available in auto
    focus.

    I bought my 35-70mm f/3.5 MD Minolta lens on ebay for $19 + $4.50
    shipping.



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  13. One low-priced alternative is the Vivitar (Cosina) 100mm f/3.5 macro,
    It can be suitable solution. I'll think, thank you.
     
    [email protected] Sadovyy, Oct 8, 2003
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  14. Hello again.

    Thanks all for advises. But I still have couple of questions...

    Does anybody has (saw) in the Net any examples of photo maked with Minolta
    close up (achromatic) lens?
    Does anybody saw in the Net specification(manuals, brochures) for this lens?

    Thanks.
     
    [email protected] Sadovyy, Oct 8, 2003
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    Search Google images for "Minolta close-up lens" and you'll see some images
    that were probably taken with this lens. All the links are dead, though.
    Here is a photo.net thread about it:

    http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=005rGc
    You can get info about the Minolta #0, #1, and #2 close-up lenses on the
    http://bhphotovideo.com website.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Oct 8, 2003
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    KEH has one of these available now for $65 in excellent+ condition,
    brand name said to be "miscellaneous":

    http://www.keh.com/shop/product.cfm?bid=MA&cid=08&sid=newused&crid=5959680

    I have seen results with this lens. Even wide open it is quite good,
    as are all 90-105mm macro lenses. Its out-of-focus rendition beats
    the Sigma and Nikon lenses, in my view.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Oct 8, 2003
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    Tom Guest

    As someone else said, the #2 is optimized for 50mm lens. I use the
    Minolta #0 and the Nikon 3T and 4T close up lenses. All 3 of these
    are dual element lenses which give much better images than the typical
    kits of closeup lenses. I use them with my Minolta 70-210 f/3.5-4.5
    lens on a Maxxum camera. The Minolta is 55mm in diameter and the 3T
    and 4T are 52mm in dia. I use them with a 55to52mm step down ring.
    Nikon also makes the 5t and 6T which are 62mm in diameter. All of
    these lenses cost from $30 to $50 each (the 5t and 6T are the more
    expensive ones). The 3T and 5T are the same power, the 4T and 6T are
    the same power and are more powerful than the 3T/5T. The Minolta #0
    is less powerful than the 3T.

    When I use the 3T on my 70-210 at 200mm focal length and add a 1.4x
    TC, I get a maximum magnification of 0.85x at a working distance of
    about 18 inches. replacing the 3T with the 4T gives me 1x. And
    combining the 3T and 4T gives greater than 1x. The advantage of the
    long focal length ias that the working distance (distance from front
    of lens to subject) is much longer than it is when using a 50mm lens.
    I get excellent photos with these setups. When I originally tried the
    cheap closeup sets the shots were definitely not as sharp.

    I also have a Tokina 90mm macro lens and a bellows set up (like an
    extension tube but with adjustable length) for my manual focus Minolta
    cameras. Although all of the methods can give excellent shots for
    specific applications, the macro lens is much easier to use since all
    of the other methods require trial and error to make the proper set up
    for the size object and magnification you want. The macro lens is
    adjusted for magnification simply by turning the focusing ring. Most
    inexpensive macro lenses go down to 1/2x magnification without any
    add-ons. With add-ons they can go to 1x and more.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Oct 9, 2003
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