Minolta DSLR coming - Herbert Keppler et al declare

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Alan Browne, Dec 12, 2003.

  1. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    http://www.popphoto.com/article.asp?article_id=766&section_id=5&page_number=5


    "WILL THERE BE A MINOLTA MAXXUM DIGITAL SLR?
    Absolutely, so hold onto your lenses, Maxxum aficionados. Scenario calls
    for a 90 percent operational sample by PMA trade show (February 12-15)
    with delivery by Photokina (September-October 2004). One feature unnamed
    will be a big surprise. Look for new 35mm SLRs at PMA, plus at least
    four point-and-shoot upgrades."
     
    Alan Browne, Dec 12, 2003
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    A new toy for you to look forward to.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Dec 12, 2003
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  3. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    Considering I have 6 Minolta lenses, none slower than f/2.8,, it is a
    relief to have this path available. I have little doubt that for my
    print work, I will rarely shoot negatives after (when) I get the digital
    camera...which per the report won't be for another year in any case.

    Slides are slides and over half of my work, and that should not change...

    That you consider it a toy is your mis-guided foolishness. Perhaps you
    should move over to the LF group and sneer at mere 4x5?

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Dec 12, 2003
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    That you consider it a toy is your mis-guided foolishness.

    The fact that people like you buy these toys is more to do with your own
    mis-guided foolishness than the necessity of these toys for photographic
    purposes.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Dec 12, 2003
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  5. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

     
    Alan Browne, Dec 12, 2003
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  6. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    ....sometimes I wonder if you can read.
     
    Alan Browne, Dec 12, 2003
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    NJH Guest

    Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy.

    Since at present I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 or 20 Maxxum
    lenses (never actually counted 'em), along with flash units and various
    other Maxxum accessories, this is something I am really looking forward to.
    Given Minolta's marketing history, I'll bet it will be a real stunner in
    unexpected some way too.

    Neil
     
    NJH, Dec 12, 2003
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  8. Alan Browne

    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Minolta DSLR coming - Herbert Keppler et al declare
    Maybe even built in to the camera body IS and/or "full screen focusing" (w/
    movable focusing points). Wonder if its going tobe the typical 6MP/APS-sized
    sensor, full frame sensor or something else entirely...
     
    Lewis Lang, Dec 13, 2003
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  9. Alan Browne

    NJH Guest

    My guess is that the sensor will be a typical one of some sort, because as
    far as I know Minolta, like most other digital camera makers, is not in the
    sensor-manufacturing business. I doubt they'd want to get into it either, as
    that would mean playing a lot of catch-up, I should think.

    The built-into-the-body anti-shake does seem very likely, considering how
    well received it's been in the A1.

    Neil
     
    NJH, Dec 13, 2003
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  10. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    A-shake from A1 ... likely
    large LCD viewer .. 2.5" (wide or diagonal?) per a German citing.
    Crop factor ... 1.3 (per same German article
    Frame ... Maxxum 7 ish. (German article)
    Name ... Diflex 7 (German article)
    Pixels ... 7 Mpix (German article)
    Weight ... 550 g (German article) (note Maxxum 7 is 575 g)
    Mount ... AFD Bayonet(the "D" is worrisome although it says

    AF Bayonet compat. too. May have to do with AS
    function as suggested by "Mike" )
    Dig. zoom ... 10X


    Cheers,
    Alan.

    wfieger - 28.07.2003, 13:15 Uhr
    Inoffiziell: Minolta Diflex 7
    Offenbar hockt Minolta mit einer neuen - ihrer ersten - digitalen
    Spiegelreflex-Systemkamera in den Startlöchern. Und als Lohn für die
    späte Geburt wird es diese Kamera in sich haben: Man munkelt von 7
    Megapixel Auflösung und einem etwas größerem Format als üblich: Der
    Verlängerungsfaktor beträgt nur 1,3. Das erweiterte Minolta AFD-Bajonett
    ist zum bisherigen AF-Bajonett kompatibel. Das Gehäuse ist sensationell
    kompakt und wiegt nur 550g (ohne Akku und CF-Karte). Neben CF-I und -II
    Karten werden auch SD-Karten verwendbar sein. Ein besonderer Clou ist
    der große 2,5" Monitor, der auch bei Sonnenlicht noch deutliche Bilder
    produzieren soll. Einzigartig: Im Videomodus wird mit 640x480
    gearbeitet, wobei unabhängig vom verwendeten Objektiv ein digitaler
    10-fach Zoom mit Bildstabilisator zur Verfügung steht. Weiters gibt es
    Zeitraffer und Zeitlupenfunktionen. Das Gerücht stammt aus Japan,
    Minolta Europa weiß nach Rückfrage nichts davon und konnte auch keinen
    Markteinführungstermin nennen.
     
    Alan Browne, Dec 13, 2003
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Minolta DSLR coming - Herbert Keppler et al declare
    "Time (and shake) will tell"... :)
     
    Lewis Lang, Dec 13, 2003
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  12. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest

    Me too (6 lenses, 5 of which are 'high end', I've sold off my 'overlap'
    lenses), 2 TC's, 3 flashes and the odds and ends... I've been worrying
    about the devaluation of my lenses if Minolta don't come through...

    Per the pop-photo blurb there will be something particularly novel about
    the new camera, but it appears that Milolta are keeping that under wraps
    for now.

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Dec 13, 2003
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  13. Alan Browne

    NJH Guest

    Thanks for the info, Alan.

    As to your question about the LCD monitor 2.5" (wide or diagonal?), that
    must be diagonal since that's the usual way of measuring it.

    As to your concern about the "D" in the lens mount designation, almost
    certainly that just means it makes use of the distance information conveyed
    to the camera body for flash exposure purposes by Minolta's current D-series
    lenses, which bodies are still fully compatible with the older Minolta AF
    lenses. So nothing worrisome there.

    Sounds great! Thanks again.

    Neil






    A-shake from A1 ... likely
    large LCD viewer .. 2.5" (wide or diagonal?) per a German citing.
    Crop factor ... 1.3 (per same German article
    Frame ... Maxxum 7 ish. (German article)
    Name ... Diflex 7 (German article)
    Pixels ... 7 Mpix (German article)
    Weight ... 550 g (German article) (note Maxxum 7 is 575 g)
    Mount ... AFD Bayonet(the "D" is worrisome although it says

    AF Bayonet compat. too. May have to do with AS
    function as suggested by "Mike" )
    Dig. zoom ... 10X


    Cheers,
    Alan.

    wfieger - 28.07.2003, 13:15 Uhr
    Inoffiziell: Minolta Diflex 7
    Offenbar hockt Minolta mit einer neuen - ihrer ersten - digitalen
    Spiegelreflex-Systemkamera in den Startlöchern. Und als Lohn für die
    späte Geburt wird es diese Kamera in sich haben: Man munkelt von 7
    Megapixel Auflösung und einem etwas größerem Format als üblich: Der
    Verlängerungsfaktor beträgt nur 1,3. Das erweiterte Minolta AFD-Bajonett
    ist zum bisherigen AF-Bajonett kompatibel. Das Gehäuse ist sensationell
    kompakt und wiegt nur 550g (ohne Akku und CF-Karte). Neben CF-I und -II
    Karten werden auch SD-Karten verwendbar sein. Ein besonderer Clou ist
    der große 2,5" Monitor, der auch bei Sonnenlicht noch deutliche Bilder
    produzieren soll. Einzigartig: Im Videomodus wird mit 640x480
    gearbeitet, wobei unabhängig vom verwendeten Objektiv ein digitaler
    10-fach Zoom mit Bildstabilisator zur Verfügung steht. Weiters gibt es
    Zeitraffer und Zeitlupenfunktionen. Das Gerücht stammt aus Japan,
    Minolta Europa weiß nach Rückfrage nichts davon und konnte auch keinen
    Markteinführungstermin nennen.
     
    NJH, Dec 13, 2003
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  14. Alan Browne

    Lewis Lang Guest

    Hi Alan:
    Thanks for the heads up on the specs, Alan. The AFD mount could either mean its
    just the current A mount w/ distance information or it could mean its "digital"
    (ie. a special smaller mount to fit a special smaller sensor). The 1.3x factor
    looks encouraging as does the 7MP. I also like the fact that it will probably
    be the equivalent size/shape/weight of the Maxxum 7 (and similar
    ergonomics/feature set?). The AS effectiveness remains to be seen but its a
    good idea in principle building into the body and continues the "Minolta
    philsophy" of including things into the body like FTM (even though Minolta has
    USM lenses now, too) and custom functions galore (no more add-on cards like
    some prior Maxxums). Maybe it will be the "Maxxum D7" -- "Diflex has such an
    ugly sound to it and it reminds me of the "Dynax" designation for models
    outside the U.S./outside North America? I love the idea of a 2.5 inch LCD on
    back --- as a matter of fact I'd love a 5 inch or more LCD that would be
    flexible (if too big for the camera's back and roll down like window shades w/
    a magnetic or physical hook on the back or on an arm extending downward from
    underneath the camera for preventing the LCD "roller blinds" from flopping in
    the wind/keep it rigid - like a camera's version of Viagra™ - but it doesn't
    have to come in blue ;-).

    OK, let's get really futuristic, a camera w/ a built-in economical low powered
    video/digital projector that can project either the camera's menu
    settings/other info and/or the scene (or movie) you just shot either onto your
    subject ;-), a nearby white wall or nearby statue of Venus Demilo (sic), or
    onto an umbrella like fold out/pop out white fabric video screen for back
    projection w/ a special custom function to reverse the image for viewing on the
    other side of the rear screen projection screen. Also a custom function for
    popcorn, Coke™ and some movie tickets would be nice, and the best part of all,
    w/ 5 inch diagonal screens the screen's image size will almost be as large as
    that of the projection screen in your local 12-plex movie theater ;-). It
    wouldn't surprise me if fututre DSLRs (not just ZLRs or P&S) were able to take
    (multiple) CDs and DVDs so you could play music and wathc a movie if the
    subject matter you were recording onto the other CD/DVD is incredibly boring.
    Detachable ultra-mini radio controlled Surround Sound™ speakers would be
    optional ;-).

    Finally, it should give instructions and camera tips in 35 different languages:

    Japaneese (whilst standing next to American monument and/or Grand Canyon):
    "Please stand next to monument a smirel... Crick! (sic)"

    English - Australian:

    "That's not a zoom lens, now this is a zoom lens mate!"

    English - Brittish/UK:

    "Please remove Britney poster from foreground then put head in meat grinder for
    buying poster in the first place. Former Spice girls and other eye candy do not
    make good foreground. Forget photography, time for tea, wanker."

    "Which way to Jessops and tea, you wanker?"

    English w/ New York accent/attitude: What the f*** do you mean by taking this
    picture? You call this a picture? You call yourself a photographer?"

    "What... you talk'n to me? You talk'n to me?"

    "All roads lead to ICP but I prefer breakfast at the local iHop (International
    House of Pancake... lenses ;-))"

    "Which way to Wall St.?"

    "Which way exit off the G.S.P. do I take for both IKEA and ToysRUs?"

    "Which way to the malls in Paramus?"

    English w/ a J.A.P. accent/translation of above two comments - Where's the
    nearest sale, honey?

    "B&H is not just a store or a state of mind, its its own state - Happy Holidays
    all you goyim!"

    "So you really think this photography town needs yet another 'photographer'?"

    English - West coast:

    Southern California

    L.A.

    "Dude, like look at all the colors, man what a composition... what do you mean
    what have I been smok'n, same stuff I've always been smok'n, old Grateful Dead
    CDs." ;-)

    "Anti-shake features are only for earthquakes, fires and floods, shaking from
    mixing valium or lithium w/ other medications is your own problem, please
    consult either your instruction manual built-in to the camera or the nearest
    Red Cross"

    "Please remove sunshades from in front of lens, sunglasses are totally 5
    minutes ago, ND filters are way cooler, dude."

    "Highway 405 is not moving, please obey all speeding laws and have a nice day
    and keep on truck'n"

    Santa Barbara

    "Camera detects more than a 1/10th f/stop variance of illumination in the scene
    - don't forget to do a 'Brooks bracket" (12 shutter speeds w/ 36 aperture
    setting in 1/3 stops above and below your exposure reading)."

    "This scene is both too flat and too contrasty, please kiss ass of Brooks
    teacher to get passing grade."

    "So you really think this photography town needs yet another 'photographer'?"

    "Which way to BA-1?"

    "All roads lead to Brooks"

    "Nice digital camera, don't forget to load the Tri-x™, ha ha, made you look.


    "This is not "Perry Mason"... Santa Barbara County Courthouse pictures, Brooks
    students as picture subject matter (because U.C.S.B. students were too busy
    partying to pose for you) and pictures of the Santa Barbara mission that have
    been done the same way 12,000,000 times before and pictures of former Brooks
    students shown w/ their 4x5" cameras standing in front of and photographing the
    Santa Barbara Mission or the Santa Barbara county Courthouse are not allowed by
    this camera's AP (Anti-Puking) function , please seek other non-cliche' subject
    matter like sunsets kids or dogs (in comparison) or camera will be forced to
    either do a Brooks Bracket on all your shots at 5 f.p.s. or by ejecting flash
    card then photographer into the Brooks library or a Jefferson campus Dektol
    tank."
    "Please remeber to go to registrar's office w/ check before entering BA-1"

    "What's the SUNNY F/16 rule?"

    "So you really think this photography town needs yet another 'photographer'?"

    "So you really think this photography town needs yet another 'photography
    student'?"

    San Diego

    "Please ask Gordon Moat to remove his feet and Nikon FM from your composition,
    'feet does not fit design parameters'."

    San Francisco

    "Please don't forget to reset your manual exposure as you exit from the Bart
    station, Bart Simpson."

    <Suasolito low froggy voiced women built like ex-Soviet Union prize
    fighter>"Hi, my name is bubbles, may I take your order, honey?"<FROGGY VOICE/>

    "This is not "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"... Golden Gate Bridge pictures,
    U.C. Berkely student pictures and Gay Pride parade pictures and pictures of
    former U.C. Berkely Gay Pride participants on the Golden Gate Bridge are not
    allowed by this camera's AP (Anti-Puking) function , please seek other
    non-cliche' subject matter or camera will be forced to go straight by ejecting
    flash card then photographer into the East Bay."

    <Oakland landlord's voice>Have some of my soup, is good for you! Roaches are
    protein!"<OAKLAND LADLORD'S OR DIS-AFFECTED ROACH'S VOICE>

    <IDIOTIC COMMERCIAL VOICE NARRATED BY KID W/ A LISP>"South Bay Health
    Center!"<IDIOTIC KID W/ LISP'S VOICE/>

    "So, how 'bout them 49ers?"

    (and for all you Star Trek IV fans:)

    <CHEKOV'S, THE CHARACTER NOT THE WRITER, VOICE>"Vitch vay to nukweear
    wessel?"<CHEKOV'S, THE CHARACTER NOT THE WRITER, VOICE/>

    <CAPTAIN KIRK OR CAPTAIN CRUNCH'S VOICE>"Well double dumb ass on you
    too!"<CAPTAIN KIRK OR CAPTAIN CRUNCH'S VOICE/>

    Portland (Brooks North)

    "So you really think this photography town needs yet another 'Brooks
    photography assistant'?"

    "To capture skate boarder please put teeth protector in mouth and please use
    special non-breakable glass filter in front of lens - camera only insured for
    cost minus $500 deductable which does not include your dental bills".

    "Please disregard the next rains storm, sunshine, snow storm or heat wave as
    the weather pattern will be changing every five minutes, unless its already
    less than five minutes, then weather may change up to five times before then.
    P.S. weathermen and/or former Brooks students w/ suicidal tendencies due to
    weather unpredictability please use custom function 37 to call the suicide
    hotline ("this week w/ special guest stars Cher and Ed Asner!") w/ camera's
    built-in wireless phone before jumping off Burnside bridge unintentionally onto
    passing boat underneath - remember, "you can't prevent humidity, but only _you_
    can prevent stupidity!"

    "What, you still here?... So you really think this photography town needs yet
    another 'former Brooks student photography assistant'?"

    Seattle

    "Cafe' late' (sic) to go please and camera's AS function automatically
    activated... please use the camera's accessory extendable cup holder and please
    remember that this Maxxum D7 is only warranteed and sealed for hot coffee
    submersion up to 135 degrees farhenheit and lawsuits up to $5,000,000."

    Vancouver

    "Please don't stash the stash in the alternative battery compartment, the cops
    are already looking the other way, please get your grunge from old NIrvana CDs,
    not from 'the mind of Minolta'".

    "Which way to the malls in Paramus?"

    Regards and Happy Holidays,
     
    Lewis Lang, Dec 13, 2003
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  15. From their marketing department you can bet on it, but how about
    technically...humm. They are going to be using someone else's sensor,
    your choice, Kodak, Sony, whatever, all are known quanities as they are
    in other cameras, but relax most of them perform quite well so whats
    next, oh yes the software, Minolta has a wonderful reputation and
    history in software development. Hasn't it? Well that is what mostly
    camera bodies are today, and their distinguishing features are
    expressed in the operating firmware and supporting software, so remind
    me again why the Minolta is going to be a winner.
     
    Mike Latondresse, Dec 13, 2003
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  16. Alan Browne

    Alan Browne Guest


    What examples of 'bad' s/w are there for Minolta? I have their scan s/w
    for my DSE-5400 and it is quite good.

    The "human factors" side of Minolta cameras such as the Maxxum 9 and
    Maxxum 7 has always been top-notch and arguably the best of top end
    SLR's. As the user interface is usually the reflection of good design,
    incl s/w, I expect this will show through in the new camera.

    The 7, 7i, 7Hi have gotten high marks for their useability (less so for
    battery life), so I don't think anyone expects they will do worse with a
    new DSLR. I do hope that it uses AA or CR123 and that it has a grip for
    extra battery storage.

    The rumor out of Germany suggests a 7 Mpix sensor, so resolution should
    not be a factor. What may be a factor is how they do the surface optics
    of the sensor.

    The new camera is further rumored to have quite a large LCD display (pix
    count not spec'd yet). Further there is the promise of something very
    novel about the new camera ... but Minolta are keeping that under wraps
    for the moment.

    Minolta have historically been inovators in SLR technology. That they
    are latecomers to the DSLR game has been frustrating to us Maxxum lens
    owners is tempered by the other side of the coin which is they've taken
    more time to design the camera and to learn from whatever good things
    (and mistakes) the others have done. They make P&S digis, as well as
    the Dimage 7 variants and the A1. They were among the first DSLR makers
    (the "too early" RD-175). eg: Digital and the s/w that goes with them is
    not exactly a mystery to them.

    Speaking of the A1, it has an anti-shake feature that is quite novel.
    As good as IS / VR? No, but much better than nothing, and will not
    require that I buy more lenses.

    This delay has been frustrating to us Maxxum lens owners, OTOH, it
    appears they will come out of the gate at a fairly high pix count and a
    fairly low crop (1.3x per German rumor) sensor.

    In the end, whether you like Minolta or not, it appears they are finally
    meeting the expectation of Minolta glass owners such as myself. I can't
    use my glass on a Nikon or Canon. ( I truly wonder why Sigma didn't
    make the SD-9 in various lens flavours, they would have sold to a lot of
    Minolta owners ).

    I will not be surprised if Minolta's first full DSLR is very good with a
    few weak points, and that the successor product will be stellar. I hope
    that it is at least as good as a 10D. Time will tell.

    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Dec 13, 2003
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  17. Alan Browne

    Gordon Moat Guest

    I always thought it seemed a little silly to judge 6 MP images on 0 .2 MP
    displays, especially in bright sunlight. Perhaps dispensing with the LCD, and just
    installing a DLP projector into the camera body? Then you could do a slide show
    directly from the camera.
    Hey, I just said that . . . . though I did read that about three manufacturers
    that are already working on this technology. Two parts that you might not like are
    the high battery consumption, and the fact that these devices are currently in the
    works for camera phones. Looks like wireless imaging will replace digital imaging
    for the masses.
    Handspring/Palm phone, camera, video, entertainment, organizer . . . and probably
    includes a reminder to pay your monthly bill. Lots of these things are possible,
    but battery life limits their introductions (except for soda dispenser in the
    camera/phone). Anyway, if battery technology takes a large leap in advancing, then
    I would expect many really radical changes.
    Maybe there will be programming that judges the image based upon known famous
    photographs. If the image you took does not closely match the database, then it is
    not written to the memory card, thus saving the possibility of having any bad
    pictures . . . . . . . Of course, some people might get mad when they find they
    have no pictures from their last vacation.
    Of course, in LA, one no longer needs to smoke anything, just step outside into
    the smog. Then there are always the "Oxygen Bars", when you really do want to
    clear your head . . . . but, like, Dude . . . reality sucks!
    How about plastic surgery to make your nose fit the camera better?!?!?
    The Zoned Out system, or the Zombie System?
    .. . . . and here I thought the darkroom was for making out with the girls in the
    class. Too bad the instructor was not a cute girl . . . . .
    I heard that quite a bit in Santa Barbara. The other funny one was the puzzled
    look when I explained that I was there filming a documentary, and I was not going
    to Brooks.
    Must remember that one . . . . good. :)
    Really fun going to I.V., and amazing how much Norwegian engineering students can
    drink. The experiences really confirmed what a Norwegian Breakfast really was like
    .. . . . . .
    Okay, maybe a bit too "graphic" . . . besides, I use my FE more . . . and my feet
    aren't really that big . . . . . .

    To really get a feel for San Diego, watch for the surprised look of natives when
    they find out you are not a tourist, and you still want to take photos in San
    Diego.
    One of the few places where you cannot buy a fog filter . . . :-/

    Ciao!

    Gordon Moat
    Alliance Graphique Studio
    <http://www.allgstudio.com>
     
    Gordon Moat, Dec 14, 2003
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Hi Gordon:

    BIG SNIPS
    I'l go you one better, Gordo, how about hooking up this futuristic D7 camera to
    a slide projector w/ remote control and having it judge at the local camera
    club. I can just see/hear it now...

    "Slide does not fit rule of thirds, please adjust camera or wait for an
    earthquake to give you a shift in perspective for a better focal point."

    "Slide sucks. Please fold slide in half and deposit in nearest rash can and ask
    it what it thinks. But I've got a feeling the trash can will confirm my
    hypotheses."

    "This is the trash can. Get that stinking slide out of me! I only accept trash
    not ecrement."

    "Print doesn't follow Ansel Adams' design parameters - too much content, not
    enough meaningless tonality, print not boring enough. Please reshoot w/ plus 22
    development (leave and shake in development tank until both film emulsion and
    developing tank peel apart) and minus one over-exposed (who said this had to
    make sense?*) so fog scene has all non-visible detail formerly on Zone 6 now
    extending from the *twilight zone to zone 9. Remember, somewhere out there Rod
    and Ansel and J(udy) Edgar Hoover are vacuuming while watching you from Nick at
    Nightie."

    "Only people with red jackets are allowed for human foreground interest in
    landscapes. Blue jacket. Minus two points. No field goal. No touchdown. No more
    soup for you!"

    "Hello, my name is _________ (substitute rake, garden hose, Annika, Mixmanic or
    any other garden variety troll). I will be your judge tonight. I am also the
    ghost of Wally Cox past and as well as a host for Hollywood Squares. You may
    take Whoopi to block, but frankly I think she may be more discriminating than
    to allow herself to be taken by you."

    "All dog's feces must rest on the rule of thirds, no exceptions, not even
    Underdog."

    "Your planet has just been taken over by a hyper intelligent race of primordial
    thumbtacks, as ruler and leader, all paper clips are declared enemies of the
    state and must face the gallows... or expulsion to camera club night, their
    choice. No exceptions."

    "Please disregard the previous remarks. We are a hyper intelligent race of
    paper clips and have just taken over this planet. All hyper intelligent
    thumbtacks will be executed or forced to take part in one of Annika's pooping
    dog photos."

    "We are the staplers and frankly we find all of this piffle, hardly amusing and
    offensive to our ethnicity as "staplers". Please retract all this nonsense and
    re-insert such politically correct terms as "challengedly challenged" for
    "hyper intelligent" and "sourkraut" for "paper clips" and/or "thumbtacks".
    Relinquish your mind your wallet and your sanity to us and you will be richly
    rewarded. "Impeach the peach party" - paid for by "The Committe for Staplers
    stapling Sally Struthers' stomach and mouth shut to remove her as a third world
    nation"

    "This is Annika's ---> TOTALLY pooping dog photo... What the heck are all these
    thumbtacks doing in Jewel's stool?"

    Regards,
     
    Lewis Lang, Dec 14, 2003
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  19. (Alan Browne) wrote in
    With the A-Shake, Minolta could also incorporate a lens-shift build in
    the body... then I think a crop-factor of 1.3 would be ok.

    Or... the could build in a stitching program to get a full frame
    24X36mm picture... at least for non moving targets.

    -Leonhard
     
    Leonhard Pang, Dec 14, 2003
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  20. Minolta are going to play catch up for years now.

    Your 'German' rumours emit from a single 'lunatic' source who predicted a
    Minolta DSLR in the market at September this year.....

    The Japanese rumours come from journo junkets - they always tell the truth
    don't they.....Actually the source is one decoded and unsubstantiated story
    about a Minolta DSLR from a little known Japanese news desk.

    Now I wonder if journos being the hard working people they are, went to
    Japan & spent days pestering the manufacturers & getting inside info. Or did
    they spend days in bars, karaoke & just pull this stuff off the net &
    re-hash it ????

    In Minoltas future business plan waffle, they mention a DSLR but its got a
    flag....don't expect anything too soon.

    too little, too late.....many pro's have gone to DSLR with Nikon or canon &
    sold off their Minolta stuff, I know 2 who have.

    In any case if all Minolta owners are as obnoxious as you, deserve each
    other.....
     
    Betty Swallocks, Dec 14, 2003
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