Minolta exits camera business

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Mike, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    Mike, Jan 19, 2006
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    Not only the camera business, but the film and paper business as well.

    What is the practical result of this announcement for Minolta system owners?
    When our SLR or DSLR cameras break, can we get them fixed? Will spare parts
    be totally unavailable?
     
    Bill Tuthill, Jan 19, 2006
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    Sad to see them go. I use old Minolta SLRs as my everyday shooters.

    Soon electronics companies will own the lot, thanks to brainless consumers
    and slick marketing.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 19, 2006
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    Jeremy Guest

    Here is an excerpt from their announcement:

    "We will, from now on, be concentrating our business resources on
    non-consumer businesses, such as the core "business technologies" field, the
    strategic "optics and display devices" field, and the growth expected
    "medical imaging" and "sensing" fields, increase competitiveness, and
    endeavor to further expand corporate value."

    I wonder if the DiMage scanner series will be discontinued as well? I can't
    see them continuing to make film scanners once they've exited the film and
    camera businesses. Perhaps they will transfer their scanners to Sony, along
    with their other digital imaging products, as they noted in their press
    release.
     
    Jeremy, Jan 19, 2006
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    TheDave© Guest

    TheDave©, Jan 19, 2006
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    "In camera business, we have reached an agreement with Sony
    Corporation(Sony), having numerous image sensor technologies such as CCD and
    CMOS, to jointly develop digital SLR cameras in July 2005. In order to
    continue to have our customers use Maxxum/Dynax lenses, and to maximize
    possibilities of the optical, mechanical and electronics technologies
    accumulated through development of SLR cameras in the years to come, we came
    to the conclusion that it was best to transfer assets concerning camera
    business to Sony. Since then, we have been negotiating with Sony, and as a
    result, we have reached an agreement with Sony to transfer a portion of
    assets regarding digital SLR camera system to Sony*1. In this relation, we
    have decided to withdraw from camera business*2, such as film cameras and
    digital cameras, within Konica Minolta Group as of March 31, 2006."

    I see trouble ahead for Nikon and it's reliance on Sony sensors. I cannot
    see why Sony would supply a now direct competitor with chips for their
    DSLR'S, I suppose Nikon will be good value for Panasonic when the inevitable
    happens.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 19, 2006
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  7. Why not? If you opened up a Nikon video camera, the inside was all
    plastered with Sony labels. Sony was selling identical cameras with
    their own name on them.
     
    James Robinson, Jan 19, 2006
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Aren't they required by law (at least here in the US) to provide support for
    a certain time period?
     
    Matt Clara, Jan 19, 2006
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    Matt Clara Guest

    Matt Clara, Jan 19, 2006
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    I don't know why, but I didn't see that coming. Now I'm afraid for
    Pentax!

    Canon will be the only company of the 'old school' left. The others will be
    bought up by electronics manufacturers.
    Samsung will acquire Pentax soon enough, surely Pentax cannot survive if
    Minolta couldn't.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 19, 2006
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    Now I'm afraid for Pentax!

    "Sony is planning to develop digital SLR cameras compatible with
    Maxxum/Dynax lens mount system, so that the current Maxxum/Dynax users will
    be able to continue to use them with Sony's digital SLR cameras. In
    addition, we will consign camera service operations for Konica Minolta,
    Konica,Minolta brand cameras and related equipment to Sony."
    How apt it all is, on the 1st of April, Sonolica DSLR's will roll-out, fools
    day cause only fools be buyin' these. Maybe Sony will give these away free
    with the purchase of one of their crappy widescreen TV's.

    What next, PenSung DSLR's ? This has been one queer month so far in the
    wacky world of electro-photography.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 19, 2006
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  12. The photography business has been peculiar for a number of decades, in
    that the industry has tolerated a degree of incompatibilty that is
    inconceivable in any other.

    For decades, all color processes were proprietary. Kodak even had THREE
    distinct reversal lines (E-2, E-3, and Kodachrome). Of course, there is
    hardly any compatibility among cameras and lens brands. Each maker of
    cameras and lenses can seel his lenses only to customers who own his
    bodies.

    The VHS-Beta duel ended in favor or VHS because of compatibility.The LP
    and CD were wildly successful because they were world-wide standards.

    Can you imagine CD's not playing on different brands of machines? Can
    you imagine records not playing anywhere in the world? I am still
    puzzled why a single world-wide television or radio standard cannot be
    derived, or why a single mains voltage and frequency cannot be agreed
    to.

    I think the issue of compatibility is finally catching up with the
    photo industry. It really is absurd that you cannot put Canon lenses on
    a Nikon or Minolta body.
     
    uraniumcommittee, Jan 19, 2006
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  13. No doubt.....I just purchased their Scan Elite 5400 II. In keeping with my
    usual karma, as soon as they realized that Graham liked it, they were
    compelled to discontinue it. I am sure that they are dismantling their
    factory even as we speak,,,,,,
     
    William Graham, Jan 19, 2006
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    Mostly the latter, I'd say. Minolta spent more R&D on APS cameras
    than anybody, and issued more APS models, including an expensive SLR
    and even a DSLR! You gotta be pretty boneheaded at product marketing
    to have believed APS was more than a scam to sell minilab equipment.

    When the time came to issue a follow-on 35mm DSLR (they already had
    an early one) Minolta dithered for years. The Konica buyout further
    confused product marketing and engineering, it appears. When the 7D
    finally appeared, Canon was on its 3rd DSLR, and it was too late
    for Minolta. Photographers with free cash had already bought Canon
    or Nikon models.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Jan 19, 2006
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    I think the issue of compatibility is finally catching up with the
    What is more absurd, is that RAW formats are all incompatible and
    proprietary and that there is not even now, an agreed industry standard for
    long term archival storage of digital images. People are buying into this
    digital crazy blindly, with no thought about how they will access their
    images in 10- 20- 30 years.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 20, 2006
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    Scott W Guest

    It would be sad to see Pentax go, they make a cute little water proof
    digital that make good use of.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jan 20, 2006
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  17. I, (or my grandchildren) will simply take one of my slides out of the box,
    and run it thru whatever digital scanner is available for viewing "antique
    film" then.
     
    William Graham, Jan 20, 2006
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    Scott W Guest

    For most people jpg is good enough, and it will be around for a very
    long time to come. For those people who just hate jpg there is tiff.
    It took me a couple of hours to write a program to extract an image
    from the tiff file format. The tiff format is so simple that
    retrieving an image from it is not an issue.

    For raw I am taking a wait and see attitude but I am also converting
    many of my raw file to DNG format.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jan 20, 2006
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    For most people jpg is good enough, and it will be around for a very
    Yeah right, we'll see how "simple" it'll be in thirty years.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 20, 2006
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    Scott W Guest

    If the gif file format can last 20 year (19 so far and counting) and I
    can still open a pcx file
    (21 years old) why on earth would I not be able to open either a jpg or
    tiff?

    I should also point out that I have files on my computer that go back
    more the 20 years that I can read just fine.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jan 20, 2006
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