Minolta exits camera business

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Mike, Jan 19, 2006.

  1. Mike

    no_name Guest

    The announcement did say they're transferring assets to Sony and that
    Sony will continue to develop for the Maxxum/Dynax lens mount.

    http://konicaminolta.com/releases/2006/0119_02_01.html

    From the separate announcement:

    Under this agreement, on March 31 2006, Sony will receive certain assets
    from Konica Minolta PI that are necessary for the development, design,
    production and so forth of digital SLR cameras compatible with Konica
    Minolta PI’s “Maxxum/Dynax lens mount system”.** Sony will accelerate
    development of new digital SLR cameras based on and compatible with the
    Maxxum/Dynax lens mount system with a view to marketing these models
    this summer.

    The announcement also seems to indicate KM will continue to manufacture
    some cameras and lenses for Sony to sell. At least that's how I
    interpret the following:

    .... Konica Minolta Group will ... withdraw from camera business*** as of
    March 31, 2006.

    *** Excludes production of digital SLR cameras and interchangeable
    lenses for Sony
     
    no_name, Jan 20, 2006
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  2. Mike

    no_name Guest

    Wasn't there something recently that Nikon was already moving away from
    Sony for their next generation of sensors due to KM's previous deal with
    Sony?
     
    no_name, Jan 20, 2006
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  3. Mike

    no_name Guest

    Pentax already has a deal with Samsung to develop Pentax's next
    generation of sensors.
     
    no_name, Jan 20, 2006
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  4. Mike

    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    If the gif file format can last 20 year (19 so far and counting) and I
    Developments in file formats are occurring at a far swifter pace than in the
    past, esp. around the area of digital imaging as you well know.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 20, 2006
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  5. Mike

    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    Pentax already has a deal with Samsung to develop Pentax's next
    I know, just like Minolta had a deal with Sony, and look what happened
    today.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Jan 20, 2006
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  6. Mike

    no_name Guest

    Yeah, but I think Pentax is in a stronger market position with their
    cameras. KM got to the DSLR market kinda late.
     
    no_name, Jan 20, 2006
    #26
  7. Hummmmm.....This is one day before April fools day.........
     
    William Graham, Jan 20, 2006
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  8. Mike

    DD Guest

    This is interesting because with the M and F mount patents now falling
    away, I suppose there will be a gap in the market for other companies
    (like Zeiss) to exploit those opportunities.

    What we may end up seeing is a Sony badged DSLR with a Nikon mount and
    Konica Minolta guts, with a Zeiss lens plopped on the front. What about
    a Leitz lens?

    You're right - the only way forward from here is to standardise
    compatibility between lens and body amongst manufacturers, thus
    delivering to the world endless choice that is segmented only by price
    and quality, yet unified by forwards and backwards compatibility. Nikon
    F mount sounds like the ideal place to build such a dream on.

    God help Canon if that ever becomes a reality...
     
    DD, Jan 20, 2006
    #28
  9. Mike

    Scott W Guest

    I don't see this at all. What I see is much more stability in file
    formats then there was 30 to 40 years ago.

    Scott
     
    Scott W, Jan 20, 2006
    #29
  10. What F mount patents are now falling away?

    The basic F mount is from 1959. Ai is from 1977. Any patents related to
    those mounts must have expired years ago.

    Basic AF is from around 1986. (I think that F-501 is the first). However there
    is also the F3AF from 1983.

    With just the patents from 1986, you don't get AF-I/AF-S.

    It is possible that the F3AF already covered enough of AF-I that (with the
    possible exception of D and VR) most of the mount is now free.

    However, the last thing I need is more AF lenses. And I don't think that the
    announced Zeiss lenses with be AF. So, it would have been possible to
    produce those lenses from around 1997.
     
    Philip Homburg, Jan 20, 2006
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  11. Mike

    etosha Guest

    Well, what do you know?! This summer I am going to Gabon to shoot the
    local wildlife and of course I will need good photographic gear there.
    So two days ago I received a second-hand Dynax 9 for which I had bought
    three Sigma lenses a week earlier, and on hearing the news about K-M
    dropping out of the camera biz, I was appalled, to say the least.

    Now, after reading the comments above, I rest assured: maybe sticking
    to 35 mm (and that excellent workhorse) wasn't such a bad idea after
    all: if Sony will continue with maintenance and develop top-notch
    Minolta-compatible bodies in the future, I might as well stick with
    slide (thank you Fuji!) and my film scanner and wait for the big
    players to buy each other out. Eventually I think Sony will remain in
    the business, which is good news for Minoltians, and perhaps for
    compatibility at large as well.

    So hold your heads up high, Minoltians!

    cheers, Marko
     
    etosha, Jan 20, 2006
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  12. Mike

    Bill Tuthill Guest

    This is a terrible press release. I fails to answer important questions
    such as "how will I get my Minolta equiment repaired" and yet discusses
    useless topics such as what K-M management plans to do next. Who cares?
    They can take their entire business and shove it as far as I'm concerned.
    There is only one glancing "thank-you customers" sentence.

    No wonder these clowns are going out of the photography business.

    Contrast this to a Fujifilm press release, better written:
    http://home.fujifilm.com/news/n060119_2.html

    So far I have not seen anyone shed tears about the demise of Konica film
    and paper, as people did for the demise of at least several Agfa products.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Jan 20, 2006
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  13. Mike

    Matt Clara Guest

    Tiff is nearly 20 years old, too, as I recall.
     
    Matt Clara, Jan 20, 2006
    #33
  14. The press release is for the financial community.
     
    Nicholas O. Lindan, Jan 20, 2006
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  15. Mike

    TheDave© Guest

    Shareholders care, and they're not necessarily customers, but your
    point is well taken.
     
    TheDave©, Jan 20, 2006
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  16. Mike

    Gordon Moat Guest

    Seven years of parts. They could do that with an inventory stock. Also,
    they could legally designate a service facility, rather than maintain
    their own.
     
    Gordon Moat, Jan 20, 2006
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  17. Mike

    Gordon Moat Guest

    This same thing is something I consider a possible issue. Perhaps we
    might here something by Photokina 2006.
     
    Gordon Moat, Jan 20, 2006
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  18. Mike

    Gordon Moat Guest

    Almost gone. Check on the latest Samsung D-SLR. They made a deal to use
    Pentax lenses and camera making technologies. Your future Pentax will
    instead by called a Samsung . . . if you still want one.
     
    Gordon Moat, Jan 20, 2006
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  19. Mike

    Tony Polson Guest


    Nor for the demise of Konica minilabs, although ongoing support for
    existing Konica minilabs will be available from Noritsu.
     
    Tony Polson, Jan 20, 2006
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  20. Mike

    HvdV Guest

    Tiffs can be pretty complex, see the Tiff6 documentation. Fortunately there
    are excellent open source reader and libraries like libtiff who handle all
    the details -- usually. No need to write your own reader!
    As long as there are c-compilers around to turn the open source into working
    programs we'll be able to read Tiffs. The same might not be true for all the
    RAW formats..

    -- Hans
     
    HvdV, Jan 20, 2006
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