Minolta SRT vs Pentax Spotmatic?

Discussion in 'Pentax' started by Adam Jacobs, Jan 29, 2006.

  1. Adam Jacobs

    Adam Jacobs Guest

    I'm looking at buying an SLR for black&white work that's sturdy and easy
    to take everywhere.. Internal lightmeter is must. Can anyone offer a
    suggestion as to which of these cameras to buy? At first glance, the SRT
    looks like a better camera.. Full aperture metering, and the metering
    method is actually an average of 2 cells.. The spotmatic uses stop-down
    metering with a single cell. Now, this is just the metering method, of
    course.. Otherwise, the 2 cameras look pretty identical for features.
    Any personal experiences? I have to admit, the SRT looks tougher.. but
    the Spotmatic looks nicer. The Spotmatic sells for about twice what a
    comparable quality SRT goes for.. Is it just because "Pentax" is a
    better brand than "Minolta"? I'm currently shooting color with a
    consumer-end Olympus IS-50, and doing portraits of the kids with my
    Yashica-MAT. The Olympus is way too slow (f/4.9 at it's fastest, slowing
    throughout the zoom) for a lot of edge of day photography.. Unless I'm
    shooting super fast film. (800 or higher). Both the Takumar and Rokkor
    lenses seem to be very very fast (f/1.7). Is one inherently better than
    the other? I've read glowing reviews of both lenses.

    I understand that the Spotmatic will work with modern Silver-oxide cells
    without any modifications, where the SRT needs to have a diode
    installed. (Not a big deal). So batteries aren't really a consideration.

    Thanks,
    -Adam
     
    Adam Jacobs, Jan 29, 2006
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  2. Adam Jacobs

    Colyn Guest

    The SRT's only weakness is the metering cell glass blocks are glued to
    the main prism with a glue that is probably deteriated thus affecting
    meter accuracy. However this is an easy fix with crystal clear glue
    from micro-tools.com.

    The Spotmatic's weakness is in the mirror return spring which is
    somewhat weak due to age and will in all probability break with
    moderate use. In order to fix this problem you have to remove the
    mirror cage and if you are lucky to find another spring replace it.

    Both cameras are very good cameras but my personal favorite is the
    SRT. I still own and use several. The SRT is a lot tougher than the
    Spotmatic..

    As for the diode installation, it takes less than 5 minutes to
    install..

    Go with the SRT...
     
    Colyn, Jan 29, 2006
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  3. I've never cared for anything with the Minolta name on it. Their stuff
    was always designed strangely and there were significant repair
    problems.
    My 1969 Spotmatic is still going strong.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Jan 30, 2006
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  4. Adam Jacobs

    bmoag Guest

    Why such ancient gear?
    In any event I have Minoltas of that vintage that are in perfect shape.
    Minolta, now departing this world, was one of the best 35mm SLR and lens
    manufacturers ever.
     
    bmoag, Jan 30, 2006
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  5. Adam Jacobs

    Colyn Guest

    Could you be more specific??

    What exactly were the significant repair problems?
     
    Colyn, Jan 30, 2006
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  6. Back when we had a local camera shop, they used to get a lot of
    Minoltas of all models in for repair - more than any other brand.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Jan 30, 2006
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  7. Adam Jacobs

    UC Guest

    Leicaflex SL and two-cam lenses. They are plentiful and cheap.
    Indestructible.
     
    UC, Jan 30, 2006
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  8. Adam Jacobs

    Colyn Guest

    You didn't answer my question which is what were the specific
    problems?

    I've owned and used Minoltas since the SR-series first came out and
    have never seen any significant problems.

    As I stated before the only weakness of the SRT was with the meter
    cell glass glue would deteriated with age and had to be cleaned and
    re-glued which is a fairly simple repair.

    I've seen no significant problems with the XD or XE series and the
    XG-9 I bought new is still working as good as the day I bought it.
     
    Colyn, Jan 30, 2006
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  9. Adam Jacobs

    Colyn Guest

    Unless you get lucky you won't get a Leicaflex cheap but the 2 cam
    lens can be had for not much more than say a Minolta or Nikon lens of
    the same focal length.
     
    Colyn, Jan 30, 2006
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  10. Adam Jacobs

    UC Guest

    UC, Jan 30, 2006
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  11. Adam Jacobs

    Colyn Guest

    I got my first Leica in 1959 when my granddad gave me a IIIa with
    Summar.
    I now have several screwmount Leicas, 2 M3's, and a M4 along with a
    number of Leica lens. I sold my SL a few years ago.

    I found a IIIfBD at the local flea market with 50mm f/2 Summicron for
    $20. I just replaced the curtains and am in the process of timing the
    shutter with my homemade shutter speed timer.

    I agree that Leicas are the best. I also believe Minoltas are the best
    as far as Japanese cameras go.
     
    Colyn, Jan 30, 2006
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  12. Adam Jacobs

    Mojtaba Guest

    Cheap????

    You are cheap. hehhehhehheh
     
    Mojtaba, Jan 31, 2006
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  13. Adam Jacobs

    UC Guest

    UC, Jan 31, 2006
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  14. Adam Jacobs

    Adam Jacobs Guest

    Well, specifically, such ancient gear because the quality / price ratio
    is so good. I spent $100 on that Olympus (retail $300), and I described
    its problems. Digital is even more money for decent quality. These 70's
    SLR's are very sweet quality for very little money ($30-$50).

    Besides, I love the solid feel of a real metal SLR.

    Well, I think I'm going to go with the SRT, then. Thanks everyone!
     
    Adam Jacobs, Jan 31, 2006
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  15. Adam Jacobs

    UC Guest

    Choke, cough...
     
    UC, Jan 31, 2006
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  16. Adam Jacobs

    Adam Jacobs Guest

    Thank you for your very well thought out and detailed reply. Sounds like
    a winner to me.

    Thanks.
     
    Adam Jacobs, Jan 31, 2006
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  17. Adam Jacobs

    Adam Jacobs Guest

    Holy cow!
    I think I should have been more specific.. A quick check of ebay is showing:
    Minolta SRT at $30
    Pentax Spotmatic at $60
    Leicaflex at $300

    I'm in the SRT-Spotmatic pricerange for this camera. I do believe whole
    heartedly that more money buys a better camera (Leica, Nikon, etc).. I'm
    just not in that market at all. This camera will be replacing a Petri FT
    1000, and will sit in the same camera bag as an Olympus IS-50 and a
    YashicaMat.
     
    Adam Jacobs, Jan 31, 2006
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  18. Adam Jacobs

    UC Guest

    Where are you, Haiti?

    People are buying $3000 cameras like water, and you think $300 is a lot
    of money?
     
    UC, Jan 31, 2006
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  19. Adam Jacobs

    Colyn Guest

    You can't go wrong with the SRT..
     
    Colyn, Jan 31, 2006
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  20. Adam Jacobs

    Colyn Guest

    The problem with the Leicaflex is most who buy just sit it on a shelf
    and look at it.
    I've been told I'm an idiot for using my Leica gear but a camera is
    made to take photos not sit on a shelf.
    I once had a Petri FT. A good camera in its day.
     
    Colyn, Jan 31, 2006
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