Minolta users get to go "upscale" thanks to Sony

Discussion in 'Sony' started by RichA, Nov 7, 2006.

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    RichA Guest

    RichA, Nov 7, 2006
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    bmoag Guest

    Sony has the resources to push the Sinolta to the head of the pack. However
    most of what I have read suggests that Zeiss badged lenses will sell at
    unrealistically high price points.
    bmoag, Nov 7, 2006
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    just bob Guest

    Oh, you mean like Canon, which are proof people will pay whatever you
    just bob, Nov 7, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    They might find buyers. Supposedly they're bringing out three more
    DSLRs, at least one a "pro" model of some sort. The Zeiss glass is
    actually (for what it was) cheaper than the pro Olympus glass.
    RichA, Nov 8, 2006
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    Bill Crocker Guest

    I doubt the difference will ever make it to the final print. More "Gray
    Poupon" marketing for people with more money than brains!

    Bill Crocker
    Bill Crocker, Nov 8, 2006
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    Skip Guest

    That's true of just about any camera mfr, especially those who number DSLRs
    on their product list. But Leica leads the pack by a furlong, or more.
    Pentax may be to only exception to that, but it's debatable.
    Skip, Nov 8, 2006
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    bmoag Guest

    This is really a key issue: absolute lens quality is just not as great a
    factor in digital photography as in film photography. In my opinion the
    worst sin a lens can have is chromatic aberration as this is the most
    difficult to correct in high contrast portions of an image and is probably
    exagerrated due to the limited dynamic range of digital sensors.
    bmoag, Nov 8, 2006

  8. Consider, also, that Zeiss have similar (but not identical) Nikon mount
    lenses just announced. Sony may have a certain hold over some of the
    designs, but it's possible Zeiss could be launching Canon or Nikon AF or
    even 4/3rds fit lenses in future.

    What's important right now is that there remains a worldwide shortage of
    SLR lens production capacity, and an overcapacity in the compact digicam
    sector. Camera phones and pocket digitals are almost being given away,
    while retailers are unable to obtain many DSLR lenses, with waiting
    lists and delays for new gear accompanying rising prices for good used kit.

    Zeiss is apparently opening up new production lines with Sony (not
    hijacking existing facilities) just as Panasonic did with Leica. It will
    only take two or three more companies to invest in new lines, reversing
    the trend of outsourcing lenses (see the Pentax non-limited range and
    the Tokina range as an example of this) and capacity will catch up with
    demand. Once it exceeds demand, we can expect to see prices fall.

    David Kilpatrick, Nov 8, 2006
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    Panos Guest

    The Zeiss-branded lenses for the Nikon F mount are all manual focus
    lenses without a CPU (AI-S lenses) and therefore they can only be used
    by the D2 and D200 cameras. At least, if they had a CPU (like Nikon P
    lenses) they could be used by any Nikon camera but that was not to be.
    I doubt that Zeiss will ever put its name on Nikon or Canon AF lenses.
    They will stick with Sony i.e. Sony will manufacture lenses with the
    Zeiss brand name on them, for those who have more money than sense, in
    order to offer something equivalent to the Canon L-type luxury lenses.
    Panos, Nov 8, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Is that actually true or does it simply mean that they will not meter and
    you have to do your settings manually perhaps using the sunny 16 rule or use
    a meter?
    Something that Nikon really needs to fix on it's "lower end" cameras, all
    Pentax D-SLRs will meter with any lens that you can physically fit to the
    camera (some auto some manually), there is no excuse for Nikon not including
    this feature.
    Pete D, Nov 9, 2006
  11. Yeah, this is the most important thing keeping me from buying the D80.
    It's a completely artificial limitation of course, as being able to
    meter and autoexpose with any lens or beer bottle bottom is a feature
    that's been around in dozens of SLR's since at least the 70's...

    Actually now I'm pretty interested in the K10D.
    Toni Nikkanen, Nov 9, 2006
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