Minolta vs. Nkon and Canon

Discussion in 'Minolta' started by Wayne Dyer, Dec 14, 2003.

  1. Wayne Dyer

    Alan Browne Guest

    ....certainly, I have the 100 f/2.8 macro. razor.


    e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.
    Alan Browne, Dec 16, 2003
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Minolta vs. Nkon and Canon
    Much lighter than even that, perhaps the whole body weighing about a 1lb./500
    grams or so
    Lewis Lang, Dec 16, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest

    ....er, not sure 'bout that. The Max 9 was in the $1400 - $1500 range
    when new, the Ti over $2500. (MRSP was $3500) Currently 'round $2500.



    Alan Browne, Dec 16, 2003
  4. Wayne Dyer

    Alan Browne Guest

    One of the principal reasons I bought it: Big bright viewfinder. Makes
    my maxxum 7xi look like it has smoke in it.... also has the dipoter
    adjustment (so does the 7) so I can work with out cheaters.

    Alan Browne, Dec 16, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest

    ....bone up on the warranty conditions. Note that I've bought a couple
    'grey' lenses from B&H ... no prob...my risk though... but one warranty
    has already run out and the other ain't far.
    I can't recall of anyone having a failed Minolta lens ... if you dig
    enough you'll find him...

    Alan Browne, Dec 16, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest


    Now that Minolta appear to be committing to a DSLR, that lens is on my
    list too for travel and general futzing.
    Alan Browne, Dec 16, 2003
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Minolta vs. Nkon and Canon
    Hi Alan:

    From your previous post, not the one above I'm responding to, but before it, I
    was under the impression that you thought the Maxxum 7, not the 7xi causes eye
    strain. DO you find this to be true? To me the Maxxum 7's vf is plenty bright
    and contrasty, it only needs a little bit higher eyepoint like my 600si ;-).
    What are cheaters - diopters? glasses?

    Lewis Lang, Dec 16, 2003
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    Magnus W Guest

    In the states maybe, but certainly not in Europe. Of course, some stores
    treted it as a collectible from the beginning, but those who didn't sold it
    considerably cheaper.
    Magnus W, Dec 16, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Hi Lewis,

    No I meant the Max 7xi. wrt the 7 can't say, I've only picked up a 7
    long enough to drool a bit and then run away... The 7xi does not, per
    se, cause eye strain, but once you look the the 9's viewfinder, the 7xi
    seems dim indeed. If the 7 has a true pentaprism, then it is probably
    as bright as the 9. If it has a mirror box ...

    Cheaters=glasses. (could be diopter viewfinder attachments too.)

    Alan Browne, Dec 16, 2003
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    It has a pentaprism. All 7 series had/has a glas pentraprism, so far.
    The 7xi had the "disadvantage" to have a LCD between the pentaprism and the
    focusing screen.

    Leonhard Pang, Dec 16, 2003
  11. The 7, 9, 7xi and 9xi all have pentaprisms. The xi finders were dim because
    they had that funky LCD overlay on 'em. Sounded like a good idea at the
    time, but alas, it wasn't. I found the scale on the 9xi very difficult to
    read. Moving it off the finder area (and not incidentally removing that
    danged overlay) and puttingit in the info area surrounding the finder
    improved things immensely.

    Mike Lipphardt, Dec 16, 2003
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Thanks for the clarification.
    Alan Browne, Dec 16, 2003
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    NJH Guest

    Exactly so. My audiometer curve starts out all right but drops like a stone
    in the higher frequencies. This is pretty common with us old geezers I
    suppose. That's why I really think the 700si shutter *is* relatively quiet;
    its sound is mostly low-pitched and I presume I'm hearing most of it. Of
    course it's possible that there's a higher pitched component that I just
    don't hear. :)

    Yes, not hearing any beeping does not leave me feeling that I've been
    cheated of anything. It's a "feature" I usually turn off anyway.

    I did, until I priced 'em. :)

    Then I decided I'd just as soon continue saying "Hah? Say again?"

    NJH, Dec 16, 2003
  14. Wayne Dyer

    NJH Guest

    So does the 700si. It's got the LCD overlay on the screen, same as your 7xi.
    The 700si is still my favorite SLR, but the viewfinder is very noticeably
    dimmer than my 600si which doesn't have the overlay.

    I think you mean "mirror prism." But those have improved greatly in recent
    generations, at least Minolta's have. I have the 500si and the 5, both of
    which have mirror prisms, and both of which look just about as bright to me
    as the 600si which has a solid glass pentaprism (with similar lenses mounted
    of course).

    NJH, Dec 16, 2003
  15. So the 7 and 9 have fixed markings on the focusing screen (as I see in
    the brochure), and the "better" xi and si have LCD overlaid. Now there
    might be a reason to upgrade and leave the fine si behind or degrade it
    to "2nd body just in case".
    Matthias Andree, Dec 17, 2003
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    Tom Guest

    I can't argue with most of what you've said. I have the Maxxum 7 and
    for a 400 I use the Sigma 135-400 f/4.5-5.6. I would love to have IS,
    but unless someone comes up with "WSS" (windy subject stabilization) I
    can live without it. Maybe the Minolta DSLR will have image
    stabilization in camera ?? Then I'd have a complete set of stabilized
    lenses for the cost of a body. However, regarding your question about
    AF. All Minolta AF cameras are officially capable of AF'ing at f/6.7
    using any of the sensors (linear or + sensors). However, that is
    conservative. Minolta's 500 f/8 RF lens is designed to AF with the
    center sensor on all of the cameras since the xi series (inother words
    the xi, si and 7 series). I routinely use my 135-400 with a 1.4x TC
    (560 f/8) in AF mode on any of the sensors on my 7 and on my old XTsi.
    Of course it works best on bright contrasty subjects, but it works
    pretty well even in reasonably poor light.

    Tom, Dec 17, 2003
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Minolta vs. Nkon and Canon
    Lewis Lang, Dec 17, 2003
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Hi Alan:
    Pentaprism - I'm assuming glass, though I believe the 5 has a mirror. Superbly
    bright though never compared it side to side against the 9's vf...

    Lewis Lang, Dec 17, 2003
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    Lewis Lang Guest

    Subject: Re: Minolta vs. Nkon and Canon
    So did the 700si... a vf so dark you needed a torch just to see a torch on the
    view screen ;-).
    Lewis Lang, Dec 17, 2003
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    Nick James Guest

    Maybe you've hit on Minoltas 'secret feature' - minolta already have
    inbuilt IS on some of their smaller digicams don't they? It would
    certainly make sense commercially given their lack of IS type SLR lenses.

    Nick J
    Nick James, Dec 17, 2003
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