More boring spider photos

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Jeff R., Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Jeff R.

    Jeff R. Guest

    Nothing spectacular.

    A St Andrews Cross spider (not at all frightening, if you're squeamish) in
    my backyard this afternoon.

    http://www.mendosus.com/spiders/spiders.html

    My reason for posting these is that they were taken with a P&S, handheld,
    natural lighting, using auto-focus.
    No fancy macro stuff. No tripod. No set-up. No lights, no studio.
    Just a few spontaneous shots.

    Ye Gods, this pastime is getting easy.
     
    Jeff R., Mar 15, 2008
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    Noons Guest

    incredible how good these little
    p&s thingies are nowadays.
    I never cease to be amazed with mine,
    goes with me everywhere now.
     
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    Jeff R., Mar 15, 2008
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  5. Jeff R.

    Jeff R. Guest

    ditto.

    One in the car - one at work - one in my bag - (mumbledy)teen at home.
     
    Jeff R., Mar 15, 2008
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    Noons Guest

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  7. Jeff R.

    Jeff R. Guest

    Soligor "flexomatic"
    ...but I'm kidding about selling. I'm a collector - a hoarder - not a
    seller.
    Sry.
     
    Jeff R., Mar 15, 2008
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  8. Jeff R.

    Noons Guest

    np. I've been looking at some
    of the Nikon ones, but everyone seems
    to have a different opinion on which to get.
    The one that allows fiddling with keystone
    looks like a good choice, now all I gotta
    do is find one in epay at a good price!...
     
    Noons, Mar 15, 2008
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  9. Nice demo, and I really like the St Andrews too, but I'd have to
    observe that they have boring backgrounds!

    The G9 does have a nice 'look' - I often think those who get obsessed
    with the noise problems have not been around all that long.. I
    remember when 800 and 1600 film first became easily available, and
    what the results looked like, especially if you had the misfortune (or
    lack of skill) to underexpose slightly...
     
    mark.thomas.7, Mar 15, 2008
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  10. Jeff R.

    MJW Guest

    Ok Mark, here's some background for ya! And some food. :)

    www.members.optusnet.com.au/mjwyllie/Spider_BGround.JPG

    This was taken a couple of years back with my little Kodak p&s. I really
    like Jeffs pics though, they have great detail!
     
    MJW, Mar 15, 2008
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    Mr.T, Mar 16, 2008
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  14. Jeff R.

    Jeff R. Guest

    ....and another one - just snapped - this time genuine. EXIF left intact.
    Full-frame (not cropped), but resized.
    Background is my daughters setting up the tent, ready for the Easter hols.

    http://www.mendosus.com/jpg/spiders/backyard.jpg

    (no flames yet. ?)
     
    Jeff R., Mar 16, 2008
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  15. Jeff R.

    Jeff R. Guest

    Oh yes.

    JR
     
    Jeff R., Mar 16, 2008
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    Noons Guest

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  17. Jeff R.

    Doug Jewell Guest

    You want flames? ok, happy to oblige :p
    Firstly, what you have is a species of Golden Orb spider,
    not a St Andrew's Cross. The Golden Orb's are distinguished
    by the golden sheen to the web, if seen in the right light.
    The big spider is the female, the smaller one is her
    boyfriend, who will probably become lunch once he's
    fulfilled what he came to do.

    Secondly, if you were using a DSLR instead of a P&S, you'd
    have had telephoto macro instead of wide-angle macro, and
    your daughters setting up the tent would be replaced with a
    lovely soft dark green of the tree (and you'd have spent a
    hell of a lot more to get a fairly similar result).

    Hot enough for ya?

    Nice pics though - nice and sharp.

    Here's a few more various orb spiders:
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/2337068072/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/2336220285/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/2337050820/
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/gdaj/2308239241/
    There's a big variety of these closely related species. Some
    of them get quite big, and it can be quite scary when
    bushwalking getting tangled up in one the web of one. The
    good news is, (apparently) Australian orb-weavers are
    reluctant to bite, and when they do they are are not
    dangerous - apparently the bit is less painful than a
    bee-sting. Doesn't mean I like em tho.
     
    Doug Jewell, Mar 16, 2008
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  18. OK... I had to go find one today, just for you:
    http://www.marktphoto.com/examples/St_A_spider.jpg

    Yes, it's oversharpened , and I ain't a macro-ish type of person, but
    there ya go.

    Another non-dslr shot - Fuji S9500. He wuz hanging at a really
    awkward angle in a clump of greenery - nearly broke my neck trying to
    get him in focus..

    And at least it *is* a St Andrew's Cross... (O:
    http://www.australianmuseum.net.au/factsheets/st_andrews_cross.htm
     
    mark.thomas.7, Mar 16, 2008
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  19. Jeff R.

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    Thanks Doug.
    Since my dear old mum passed on, there's no-one around here competent to ID
    such little beastlies. (I can pick the funnelwebs - but I ain't gunna
    photograph 'em..)
    Geez - I should'a guessed when they kept their legs apart (as the bishop
    said to the actress) unlike the St Andrews'.
    (...and I'm not changing the bleedin' file names...)

    Regarding the cannibalism, have you read http://www.drbeetle.com/mantis.html
    Spoils a whole subset of good jokes.

    No-o-o-o...
    If I'd upshipped the dSLR and the macro lens and the tripod and the remote
    release, then the tent would be up and the daughters inside watching telly -
    and the spider likely died of old age.

    Actually - there'd be no photos of these Orb Weavers, 'cause I wouldn't have
    bothered.
    Hey! I didn't!

    My point was the extraordinary convenience, matched with the not-too-bad
    results of said P&S.
    I'm really smitten with this little Canon. I've had bad experiences before
    (Casio, Panasonic) and good experiences (Pentax and Nikon), but this is the
    first I'd-like-to-carry-this-everywhere camera I've had since my Olympus
    35RC in (ummm) 1972 (I think).

    Of course, back then there was no such thing as "bokeh", so the little Oly
    was great for everything. As is the Canon now (I think).
    Photogenic little blighters, aren't they!


    Haven't had the privilege, yet, 'though I have to clear a path to the car
    every morning. I *swear* I spat one out once.
    Aforementioned daughter was bitten by Harry the Huntsman (a big'un) once,
    and she likened it to a bee sting.
     
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    Interesting - some of what I've read about the spiders
    indicates that the males naturally have a much shorter life
    anyway - so perhaps cannibalism is merely making the most of
    the available resources.
    Of course my point was.... uhm... tongue in cheek!
    Personally I'm not a fan of wide-angle macro, but that
    doesn't mean you _have_ to use an SLR. Personally I prefer
    SLR, but that's just a matter of personal preference. I
    dunno why all the P&S'ers have gone wide-angle - if they
    went tele-macro it would be much more useful.
    Yeah, if your gonna flame, best to have a flame-retardant
    suit on cos some will come back and bite. I lack such a
    suit, so kept the flames cool :)
    This season seems to have far more spiders than I've seen
    for ages, not only has a greater quantity made the trip into
    the 'burbs, but it seems a greater variety than normal too.

    On the down side, we've had very windy days and almost no
    sun, pretty much non-stop since before Christmas. Not easy
    taking macro photos of spiders, in lowish light, when the
    web is moving all over the place. I guess patience is the
    key - an attribute I have, but usually I'm with the
    missus... nuff said.
    Yeah, I haven't been bitten by an orb spider, but did get
    bitten by a little brown house spider a while back - I'd put
    it about on par with a green-ant bite. My worst critter-bite
    was from a scorpion - I'd rate it at about double a bee-sting.

    The most painful sting I've had was from a giant stinging
    tree. I brushed the back of one of my fingers on one of the
    leaves, and it was instantly excruciating. The wierd thing
    was, and this made it different from insect bites, was that
    the sting seemed to mess with my mind. I felt this almost
    over-whelming desire to bite my finger off. Very hard to
    describe the thoughts that go through your head.
    Fortunately, although the pain was extremely severe, it was
    fairly short lived - after about an hour it was down to a
    dull throb, half a day later and it was completely gone. The
    scorpion sting wasn't as severe, but it was almost a week
    before the pain was completely gone.
     
    Doug Jewell, Mar 16, 2008
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