N.Y. Times claims it's all over for Canon and Nikon!

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Rita Ä Berkowitz, Dec 27, 2006.

  1. The Times today had a full page add claiming, "If you want clear pictures
    you don't want a Canon or Nikon." They also claim that only 20% of Canon
    and Nikon lenses have IS/VR. They also claim that the Sony A100 is the only
    camera to give clear sharp images with all their lenses since it has IS/VR
    in the body. After seeing this add it put the fear of god into me thinking
    that it's time to start dumping all my Nikon and Canon crap and buy a Sony
    A100. I know the A100 isn't really going to give Canon or Nikon any
    competition, but it was funny seeing this full page add.







    Rita
     
    Rita Ä Berkowitz, Dec 27, 2006
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    BobF Guest

    I think the new Pentax has a body shaker...

    I have both a Nikon and a Sony and I'd say the Sony pictures always look grainy
    when I zoom in... but I do prefer the Sony raw converter, even better than
    Adobe. Wish it worked on Nikon...

    And as for the blur - the anti-shake works quite well, you can get 3 stops if
    you aren't drinking, but the auto focus hunts like a bitch in room light!

    So you have to shoot at low ISO for low noise, so most of my close ups are
    blurred due to DOF due to low F numbers... If you need the anti-shake, you are
    probably shooting noise with a high ISO because you need a small F stop, so the
    shutter speed is low...

    so the whole thing is a pain...

    Actually, I want a 5D or something... I'm saving my money but will wait for next
    years model announcements.

    I want full frame!!
     
    BobF, Dec 28, 2006
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  3. * Sigh*-I've been answering a lot of how can I get your product to work
    with my brand new A100.....guess what its "NOT" compatible because
    of the proprietary features Sony incorporates in their product.

    Buy the camera and forget using anything but the makers accessories.

    I wish people would fully research stuff before buying it.
     
    Little Green Eyed Dragon, Dec 28, 2006
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    RichA Guest

    Obviously the article is junk, but according to dpreview, Sony's Alpha
    does have resolution figures comparable to a Canon 5D because of a weak
    AA filter and less in-camera NR.
    Of course, noise is another issue...
     
    RichA, Dec 28, 2006
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  5. As dragged through other groups, and pointed out there, this was an ad
    by Sony, nothing to do with Times other than they accepted $ to print
    their ad.

    Sheesh.
     
    John McWilliams, Dec 28, 2006
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    U-Know-Who Guest

    Link?
     
    U-Know-Who, Dec 28, 2006
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    Tom Ross Guest

    <RichA>

    The A100 has a crap plastic body.

    </RichA>



    TR
     
    Tom Ross, Dec 28, 2006
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  8. As do all cameras in its class...
    Like the Canon 300d/350d/400d and Nikon D40/D50.
     
    Jeroen Wenting, Dec 28, 2006
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    Tony Polson Guest


    2007 will be an interesting year. Expect Sony and Nikon to offer
    larger-than-APS Sony-made sensors.

    Canon will introduce the full frame EOS 3D with the 5D body shape,
    plus full weather sealing and 16.8 MP, and the EOS 1Ds MkIII with
    somewhere between 22 and 25 MP. Expect the 5D to continue, but at a
    lower price point.
     
    Tony Polson, Dec 28, 2006
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    jack Guest

    jack, Dec 28, 2006
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    Matt Clara Guest

    She's talking about the physical newspaper. They don't post full page adds
    online--no one looks at them.
     
    Matt Clara, Dec 28, 2006
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    BobF Guest

    Do you think this sensor will match Canon's?
    If the 5D comes down in price - that's fine!
     
    BobF, Dec 29, 2006
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    Paul J Gans Guest


    Don't panic. It was an ad by some competing company (Sony,
    I think) trying to convince folks that image stabilization
    should be built into the camera and not into the lens.
     
    Paul J Gans, Dec 29, 2006
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    Tony Polson Guest


    No idea, but I doubt it will match Canon's low noise at higher ISOs.
     
    Tony Polson, Dec 29, 2006
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  15. Depends if it's CMOS. The R1's CMOS sensor is actually much better than
    the A100's CCD sensor at ISO 400-1600, and goes up to 3200 without too
    much detail-masking noise. If Sony is developing a full frame CCD based
    on the 6 megapixel CCD - which would mean a 12 megapixel full frame -
    then the high ISO noise of that CCD is already a fair match for Canon
    although long exposures are not as successful. If they are developing
    one based on the R1's CMOS, and have been studying Canon's methods for
    pre-adjusting pixel by pixel thresholds and zeroing hot pixels, they
    could improve on the R1, make a 16 megapixel full framer, and maybe
    catch up with Canon on 1600 ISO noise at that density.

    David
     
    David Kilpatrick, Dec 29, 2006
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    U-Know-Who Guest

    I can't afford to panic...I own too many Canon lenses!
     
    U-Know-Who, Dec 29, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Maybe not but luckily that is not the only feature cameras are used for.
     
    Pete D, Dec 29, 2006
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    Pete D Guest

    Ha Ha, you should have bought the Sony I guess, then you could have bought a
    new car as well.
     
    Pete D, Dec 29, 2006
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