N80 vs. F100, Do I really need to spend twice as much??

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by ds, Sep 17, 2004.

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    ds Guest

    Ok I've been doing my research and about to drop a small chunk of
    change to upgrade my 35mm equip to an AF system.

    The big question I keep coming back to is "Do I really need to spend
    twice as much for for the F100?" I've been weighing out several
    different things to cause my indecision.

    Keep in mind that I've been shooting with two Minolta x700's for about
    10 years, so moving to a new AF system is gonna be a huge jump as far
    as cameras go. X700's are pretty damn basic, and totally manual.

    N80/F100 diff's i'm ok with:
    -I'm fine with less frames per second. I'm not a sports shooter so
    don't need it to pop off that quik.
    -Metering seems to be comparable, little less low light sensitivity in
    the N80 but i think i can handle it.
    -I'm ok with the non-AF lens incompatibility. I don't plan on using
    non-AF lenses with it anyway.

    Things that kinda suck:
    - 92% viewfinder coverage over 96% for the F100
    - cheaper build quality
    - uhh, what else really?

    Could I get some opinions from some Nikon users out there? I'm really
    having trouble deciding, and I just don't want to sell myself short in
    the long run by geting the N80. I'll be running a moderate amount of
    film through it but I do shoot a lot in 6x7-4x5 too so it won't get
    beaten to the extent that maybe some sports or travel shooters might
    put it through.

    thanks in advance for all your replies.
     
    ds, Sep 17, 2004
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    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    The big question I keep coming back to is "Do I really need to spend
    Buy the F80 and put the change into glass. Don't put all your eggs in one
    basket e.g F100.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Sep 17, 2004
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    DGENR8 Guest

    Hi ds,

    I own both and can say that, unless you require super-fast auto-focus
    (which the F100 offers over the F80), and higher flash sync speed (250
    v's 125), there's no real reason to spend the extra dollars.

    My F80 see's some less than tender treatment and it has never missed a
    beat, so I have no issues with the build quality, and appreciate the
    lighter weight on occassion.

    Also, the built-in flash of the F80 will come in very handy on more
    occassions than you may realise, and the on-demand grid lines in the
    viewfinder, (which I permenantly have on).

    Both are awesome cameras.

    Cheers,
     
    DGENR8, Sep 17, 2004
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    Thomas Guest

    Ok I've been doing my research and about to drop a small chunk of
    [.....]

    The main difference is that the F100 is a Pro camera, ie it is built like a
    tank and weighs the same too. Unless your camera is going to be subject to
    harsh treatment, or you plan on shooting a dozen rolls of film a day, save
    your cash and get the F80. The only feature extra I can think of is
    Automatic Bracketing.
    Personally I would get yourself a used F90X. You can pick one up for about
    200 quid now.
     
    Thomas, Sep 17, 2004
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    Roy G. Biv Guest

    Can you tolerate the viewfinder on the N80? I couldn't. I wear glasses and I
    always found that the more expensive nikons (N8008, N90, F100) were well
    worth the money. (Compared to N70,N80, etc.) Hope this helps.
    Sorry due to spam I shall not provide a real e-mail address. Please reply to
    group.
     
    Roy G. Biv, Sep 17, 2004
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  6. Unless you're using AF-S lenses (or the third party equivalents),
    the N/F80's AF speed is slower than the F100. The N80 is also
    lacking a flash sync (PC) terminal, but I use a Wein Safe Sync
    even on my F100.

    OTOH, with the N80 you don't get to spend an extra $40 on a "nifty"
    MC-30 Remote Cord, either.

    The going price for an F100, either used or new, is likely to be
    volatile for a while, due to the F6 announcement. An additional
    price drop of $100-$200 wouldn't shock me.
     
    Michael Benveniste, Sep 17, 2004
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    columbotrek Guest

    I own both bodies. The useful features which the F100 has over the F80
    not already mentioned IMHO are. F100's cam 1300 AF system. Is so much
    better than the F80's cam 900 that it is able to AF in much lower light
    levels. It does not have or need the focus annoy light. It focuses
    very well in light levels where my eyes have a hard time of it and to
    where you will require a tripod or a speed light. And if you use a
    Speed light, Say a SB-28 or 800, those come with a near IR patterned
    focus assist lamp which works better on the white lamp of the N80. Does
    not have the lens limitations of the built in lamp either. The F100
    keeps a database of your exposures for download through its serial port.
    A feature not available on the F80. The F100 uses a removable battery
    holder with holders for AA's and CR123s should you so desire whereas the
    F80 has a fixed battery compartment which accepts the CR123s only. The
    F100's back is removable as is the focus screen. I replaced my focus
    screen for the one with the frame lines like on my F80. The F100 uses
    1/3 stop steps to the F80's 1/2 stop steps. All that said, I still use
    my F80 as much as I use the F100. It is lighter for one and most of the
    time I don't miss the high end features of the F100. Although the F6
    has piked my attention. I may be selling my F80 and F100 and maybe a
    range finder or two to get one ;)
     
    columbotrek, Sep 17, 2004
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  8. columbotrek said, in pertinent part:
    The CR123s last quite awhile, and I have a spare pair clipped to my camera
    bag. Also, please note that there is a battery pack grip for the N80
    (MB-16) which allows you to use AAs on the camera. I don't know anything
    about it, so I can't comment on length of battery life and such. At $70, if
    the AAs have a short life, it may not be worth the cost of grip plus
    batteries. Carrying a spare pair of 123s has worked for me so far.

    (Of course, I've carried backup batteries since my Nikon FG was a new
    purchase. :-> Heavy duty pros who run thousands of rolls through their
    camera each week may have different opinons about a pair of spare 123s.)
     
    Phil Stripling, Sep 17, 2004
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