Need advice for choosing digital camera w/ changeable lens for nature shots; 2K to spend

Discussion in 'Photography' started by MrMyke, Apr 17, 2004.

  1. MrMyke

    MrMyke Guest

    Hi all!

    I have been a home-life generalist photographer for years and have
    used a digital camera for last few years (Olympus Camedia 3040) so
    just know the basics. Also have some SLR experience too. I'd like to
    move up to "serious amateur".

    So, I'm interested in upgrading, but staying digital, to a camera that
    will allow me to change lenses for better tele and macro shots,
    especially since I'm starting to enjoy Birding and doing more hiking.

    I know it's a broad question, but would anyone be willing to start me
    off? Offer any specific ideas or point me to some articles??

    Oh...and I can't say "cost is no object" but I am willing to spend up
    to 2,000 for at least the body and a nice tele lens (or two?) or as
    close to that as I can get. Or, is this too low for what I'd like,
    which is something worth keeping for a long time as I build up my
    skills and other words, how close to professional grade
    can I come for 2 (or maybe 3) grand?? Keeping existing smartmedia also
    not important.

    Thanks anyone and everyone for your help!

    N. Norris in Seattle
    MrMyke, Apr 17, 2004
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  2. MrMyke

    al-Farrob Guest

    MrMyke wrote:

    I am an Olympus C-730UZ user for now, but I am more or less in your
    situation, sooner or later must go SLR :)

    For what I have been reading I think the Nikon D70 is the best for now.
    Forget the smartmedia cards.

    There is plenty of information on the net. Google is your friend.
    I hope you make a good choice.
    Best regards
    al-Farrob, Apr 17, 2004
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  3. MrMyke

    Zebedee Guest

    Have you considered the Panasonic FZ10? That has a 12x zoom lens and is 4mp.
    Quite honestly at $500, I'd say it's a better buy than a DSLR unless you're
    after ridiculously long lenses.



    (Claiming asylum in an attempt
    to escape paying his debts to
    Dougal and Florence)
    Zebedee, Apr 17, 2004
  4. MrMyke

    al-Farrob Guest

    Zebedee wrote:

    Interesting. I have been looking at reviews on this camera.
    I am used the the 10x optical zoom of the Oly 730, this one has interesting
    features: the price, the 12 x optical, the 4 M and particularly the

    None of them has an optical viewfinder

    Just one question: it says f/2.8 all the way. Does this mean I cannot get
    any other aperture?

    al-Farrob, Apr 17, 2004
  5. With a very short answer: Nikon D70 !! :)
    I'm not qualified to address all of these questions, but I just
    got my Nikon D70 this week, and previously owned a Nikon F80 with
    three mid/good-quality lenses; the single most important part in
    the whole system are the lenses. Good quality lenses are critical;
    I'm kind of inclined in favor of Nikon when it comes to the optics
    of the system.

    I'd advice you to go for the Nikon D70 *camera body only* (as
    opposed to the camera + lense combo, which comes with a lens that
    is not bad, but not the ideal, IMO), and get a couple of good
    lenses to go with it. With a 2000$ budget, you can easily get
    two good zoom lenses, or maybe three fixed-length. When I first
    got my Nikon F80, I got one 35-70mm f/2.8 (costs approximately
    600 or 650$), plus a tele, 70-300mm f/4-5.6 ED -- important, get
    the *ED* model (approx. 250 or 300$). There are other zooms
    in the standard category, or you could also get two fixed-length
    (the 50mm f/1.4 is a very nice choice, and it's very inexpensive;
    my brother got himself one of those, and I've seen some pretty
    impressive pictures that he's taken with that glass).

    To avoid going on and on and on with details on the various
    choices on lenses, just keep one thing in mind: the lenses are
    the parts that you most likely will want to keep if you upgrade
    the camera a few years down the road, so you want to make sure
    you get good-quality for that. (do keep in mind that the digital
    Nikons have a 1.5X focal length multiplier; so, if you get a
    50mm lens, it will act as a 75mm would act on a regular SLR
    camera -- this will unfortunately put you in disadvantage if
    you like wide-angle photography)


    Carlos Moreno, Apr 17, 2004
  6. MrMyke

    Zebedee Guest

    No. It means that you can use f2.8 at telephoto and wideangle. Many zooms
    darken to f3.5 at full telephoto. It means you get the same about of light
    in whatever the focal length. You can use any aperture you wish.



    (Claiming asylum in an attempt
    to escape paying his debts to
    Dougal and Florence)
    Zebedee, Apr 17, 2004
  7. MrMyke

    Ren Guest

    I must agree with Zebedee. I've had my FZ10 for a little over a month now
    and it takes awsome pictures. It's hard to go wrong with a Leica lense.
    Good Luck,
    Ren, Apr 17, 2004
  8. Normally, the "f" specifications indicate the *maximum* aperture;
    usually, for a zoom lens, the maximum aperture depends on the
    focal length (i.e., at a given focal length, you have a maximum
    possible aperture, and that changes over the focal length range).
    That's why you typically see things like 70-300mm f/4-5.6 -- that
    means that when the focal length is at 70, you have a maximum
    aperture of f/4, and when you are at 300, you have a maximum
    aperture of f/5.6.

    Less often, some lenses (including the one you're talking about)
    have a maximum aperture that is constant for the entire range of
    focal lengths.


    Carlos Moreno, Apr 17, 2004
  9. MrMyke

    al-Farrob Guest

    al-Farrob, Apr 17, 2004
  10. MrMyke

    al-Farrob Guest

    Zebedee wrote:

    Many thanks
    al-Farrob, Apr 17, 2004
  11. MrMyke

    YoYo Guest

    Get a Canon or Nikon and you cant go wrong!

    My suggestion is what I have, a Canon 10D, an excellent automatic
    or full manual (I use full manual) digital. Should fit your price range
    and will grow with your photography!!

    Good luck on your choice!
    YoYo, Apr 18, 2004
  12. Try out a Canon EOS 10D, Canon Digital Rebel or a Nikon D70. Buy the
    one you like best. They all have similar features, picture quality,
    performance and both Canon and Nikon offer a wide selection of high
    quality lenses.

    I like Canon because they have some real bargains in their lenses (70-
    200mm f4 USM L, 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 USM IS), but you won't go wrong with
    either brand choice.
    Brian C. Baird, Apr 19, 2004
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