need advice on getting photos printed large/canvas

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Troy Piggins, May 2, 2008.

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    Troy Piggins Guest

    My brother has taken a photo (timer and tripod) while on his
    honeymoon recently. He really likes it and is intending to get
    it enlarged and printed on canvas or something. I really like it
    too, it's pretty bloody good.

    I've had a bit of an edit of it. It's 3504x2336px full size, the
    crops are smaller obviously.

    I understand that photo quality prints are around 300ppi, or you
    can increase the size of prints a little and may not lose too
    much quality.

    But I think he really wants this thing blown up, like 1 metre
    wide or something. I'm concerned it may come out pixelated or
    something.

    Will it?

    If so, can I scale the image up and do something so that it
    doesn't print pixelated? Maybe blur it slightly to take out
    pixelation?

    What max size would you recommend? I think he just intends
    hanging it on his wall, not an art gallery :)

    Any other recommendations?
     
    Troy Piggins, May 2, 2008
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    Paul Furman Guest

    Did you have a link?
    :)
     
    Paul Furman, May 2, 2008
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    Dell Guest

    If the pictures are good you have more than enough pixels. I have made some
    really good 30"X40" prints on canvas for 4MP files from a Cannon 410 elf.
    (all I had available at the moment)

    First you need good pictures. Then clean them up using a good photo editor
    (Photoshop Elements or CS3 recommended).

    When you are happy with the print send email them to a firm like EZPrints
    http://ezprints.mye-pix.com/ezdirect/products.asp
    Remember canvas works best with large objects and bold colors.
    Also, don't worry too much about grain, large prints are meant to be viewed
    from some distance.
     
    Dell, May 2, 2008
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    Troy Piggins Guest

    To the photo? Thought about that after I sent the other one. I
    won't post the full sized ones, but here's some reduced for web
    ones.

    Here's the original he sent me:
    http://piggo.com/~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434.JPG

    My edit:
    http://piggo.com/~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-full.jpg

    Some crops I tried:
    http://piggo.com/~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-pano.jpg
    http://piggo.com/~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop1.jpg
    http://piggo.com/~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg

    What do you think of the edit? Ok? Change anything?
     
    Troy Piggins, May 2, 2008
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    Troy Piggins Guest

    By "clean them up" - do you enlarge them in CS3? Or just leave
    them at their original size and do your "normal" post-processing?
    Thanks mate. I'm in Australia, but I get your point. I think :)
     
    Troy Piggins, May 2, 2008
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    Rudy Benner Guest

    I like it, but I would do some adjustment, shadows/highlights and saturation

    http://rudybenner.com/utility/IMG_9434_copy.jpg
     
    Rudy Benner, May 2, 2008
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    Annika1980 Guest

    Michael Reichmann has a video tutorial with Jeff Schewe ("From Camera
    to Print") that has an entire chapter devoted to resolution questions
    like you are asking.
    Here are some points made in that video:

    Upressing to 200% usually is not a problem.
    With a good capture (tripod, good lens, etc.) 400% is possible.
    If you upres in CS3 then use "Bicubic Smoother."
    However, the real key in upressing files is to properly sharpen them.
    The best tool for this is Photokit Sharpener (I can vouch for this
    one).

    Viewing distance determines the needed resolution. At viewing
    distances over 24" 180ppi is sufficient. The "normal" viewing
    distance is twice the diameter of the pic.

    For the photo you mentioned I would probably upres to 200%, preferably
    in Camera Raw. Then I would sharpen to taste.
     
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    Troy Piggins Guest

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    Troy Piggins Guest

    Thanks Brett. I'll search into that. Unfortunately he doesn't
    use RAW - only got that original JPG. I try to tell him...
     
    Troy Piggins, May 2, 2008
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    Wilba Guest

    crop2 has an enhanced feeling of intimacy for me.

    The horizon is level but the back of the seat isn't quite - worth a touch of
    perspective correction?

    I'd love to see a shot from a foot higher POV. That would stop the huts
    shooting out of their heads, and would show what the disembodied glass is
    standing on. Better with the glass cloned out?

    The way his hand fits behind that cushion makes it look at a glance like he
    has his hand down her top. Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into a nit-pick
    of the raw material. :)
     
    Wilba, May 2, 2008
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    Troy Piggins Guest

    Yeah, I thought so too. That's why I did that crop. But maybe
    it will make enlarging even more of an issue...
    Good point. Will look at that.
    I'll ask him if he likes it or wants it gone. I kind of liked it
    - adds to the relaxed island feel maybe?
    :) Well they /were/ on their honeymoon! :D

    Thanks for the comments Wilba!
     
    Troy Piggins, May 2, 2008
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    Wilba Guest

    Sure. I'm a minimalist - can't help it. :)
    Ah, OK, in that case, make the cushion and her top the same colour. :-D
    No worries.
     
    Wilba, May 2, 2008
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    Helen Guest


    Sorry Troy, I can't give tips on certain Photoshop techniques, but if
    it's ok with you I'd like to give my opinion.
    This one is the best IMHO: http://piggo.com/~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434-crop2.jpg
    As Wilba said, it has a more intimate feeling to it. Now, I've heard
    you can remove things from a pic in PS. If this is possible, I would
    remove one of the huts in the distance. The one just above her head
    and his eye. It's not really distracting, but if it could be removed
    the pic would be better. I wouldn't crop the bench out, as it adds to
    the story. It really is a lovely pic. Congrats to your brother and
    new sister-in-law!
    Helen
     
    Helen, May 2, 2008
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    Troy Piggins Guest

    Always appreciated :)
    Clone out the huts? They're a feature of Maldives! :)

    Just kidding. I can see what you mean, and agree it'd look
    better without that one.
    Thanks very much Helen.
     
    Troy Piggins, May 2, 2008
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    Alienjones Guest

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    Troy Piggins wrote:
    | * Wilba wrote:
    |> Troy Piggins wrote:
    |>> Here's the original he sent me:
    |>> http://piggo.com/~troy/images/ausphoto/IMG_9434.JPG
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    Hate to be the one to pour cold water on this but no one bothered to
    point it out before...

    Mounting canvas 1 meter wide requires you to sacrifice up 70 mm of image
    on each side if it's going to be displayed like most canvas prints are,
    wrapped around the edge, 3D style.

    You'll need to lift the shadows too, unless you like painted on hair.

    Enlarge the image at your own peril. Professional print centers have
    much better software for interpolation than Photoshop. Put your faith in
    the printer. Try Office Works or Rabbit to see how bad it can look then
    go to a pro who specializes in art reproduction.

    Send the original image with instructions lest you damage it during
    editing and get less than satisfactory results... If you are going to
    shell out $350 you might as well maximize the chance of getting ultimate
    quality back.

    Or... Do what you want with it and pay $200 at Rabbit or Kmart. They
    last a couple of years before the moths get them.


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    Helen Guest


    That's what it's called, cloning. No not all of them! That's a great
    feature. Just the one, but like I said, it's not distracting. I just
    thought it would look better without it near your brother's face.
     
    Helen, May 2, 2008
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    Troy Piggins Guest

    If I had my way I'd plonk a hut right on my brother's face :)
    Jokes... I'm so funny.
     
    Troy Piggins, May 2, 2008
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    Helen Guest


    LOL! Hey, don't feel bad! There are many times I feel like doing the
    same thing to my big brother!
     
    Helen, May 2, 2008
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    Annika1980 Guest

    One good thing about Camera RAW is that you can even use it to process
    JPG files. It's a lot easier to do it that way than in CS3 because
    you are doing a lot of things in just one step.

    Watch this clip:
    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/videos/CR01_samplevid.shtml
     
    Annika1980, May 2, 2008
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    RobertJM Guest

    I suppose you could try enlarging a small cropped part of the image and
    printing it out yourself to see what effect it may have.

    I'm no expert , but I might be inclined to do something with the sky, not
    sure what though, maybe increase the contrast slightly and give it a slight
    blue cast.

    Great pic and should look good on a canvas :)
     
    RobertJM, May 2, 2008
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