Need advice: Panasonic FZ35 vs Canon SX20

Discussion in 'Canon' started by Paul Ciszek, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. Paul Ciszek

    Bart Bailey Guest

    With enough cash to lubricate an activity,
    many things are 'easier.
    When you get that better camera,
    and flash kit,
    make sure it all comes with a trained photographer. <g>
     
    Bart Bailey, Dec 8, 2009
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  7. Paul Ciszek

    NameHere Guest

    This is where a P&S camera excels. No special lighting nor supports are
    required. Due to the deeper DOF you can shoot remarkable macro photos using
    available light at all times at wider apertures at hand-held shutter
    speeds. Have none of you ever used any cameras in your lifetime? (The
    answer to that is more than obvious.)
     
    NameHere, Dec 8, 2009
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  8. Paul Ciszek

    NameHere Guest

    Then stop handing out advice on something that you know absolutely nothing
    about.
     
    NameHere, Dec 8, 2009
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  9. Paul Ciszek

    Bob Larter Guest

    I'll take that as a "No". ;^)
     
    Bob Larter, Dec 9, 2009
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  10. Paul Ciszek

    Bob Larter Guest

    Really? Show us a few 1:1 or even 2:1 macro shots taken with a P&S. I
    won't hold my breath while I wait.
     
    Bob Larter, Dec 9, 2009
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  11. What I wrote should have been written as
    "... the real question is ... to fill the (then cropped) frame ..."
    If the full 35mm frame is cropped to 1mm x 3mm, then, yes, it
    is cropped. :)
    Which doesn't matter, I understand when you do macros and want
    the object to fill x% the frame. With larger frames you need to
    come closer, that's all.
    Questions as such are unlrelated to the meaning of "macro", they
    are related to the meaning of "quiz". However, these questions
    are related to the *field* of *doing* macrophotography.
    Sure, that's why I am not discussing meanings but doings.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Dec 9, 2009
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  13. Paul Ciszek

    Bob Larter Guest

    I didn't think you could. ;^)
     
    Bob Larter, Dec 10, 2009
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  14. I'm glad to hear that it's much easier for you to find a few hundred
    dollars than to stick a bit of paper over a flashgun window. Some of
    us are not so fortunate.
     
    Chris Malcolm, Dec 10, 2009
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  15. If the minimum flash power which will trigger the studio flashes is
    bright enough to have any noticeable effect on a subject lit by the
    minimum power of the studio flashes I'd demand my money back on the
    grounds that such excessively feeble flashes with such insensitive
    triggers were not fit for their advertised purpose!
     
    Chris Malcolm, Dec 10, 2009
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  16. Paul Ciszek

    Bart Bailey Guest

    Wouldn't simply turning OFF the red-eye reduction
    eliminate all but the one flash?
     
    Bart Bailey, Dec 10, 2009
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  17. Try it with a reflective surface or shooting straight into a mirror.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Dec 11, 2009
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  18. Not necessarily.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Dec 11, 2009
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  19. Since in that case you rent the studio flashes anyway, you can
    rent the camera as well ...

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Dec 11, 2009
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  20. Paul Ciszek

    J. Clarke Guest

    First, whether you're using slaves or not shooting with the onboard flash in
    a mirror is going to cause problems.

    Second, Chris seems to be assuming that on a bridge camera one has control
    of the flash intensity--in fact the control is very limited--you can _maybe_
    set it two stops down but you can't set it to the lowest level that will
    trigger external optical slaves.

    Further, I doubt that anybody who is shooting with a bridge camera is going
    to be using AC powered studio strobes--he's more likely to be using a cheap
    consumer flash for off-camera lighting.
     
    J. Clarke, Dec 11, 2009
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