Need Image Storage Solution

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by stemscopesinteractives, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. Hello,

    I apologize for invading your photography discussions, but I hope you can help me with something. I work for a non-profit K-12 Science curriculum project. We have collected thousands of images for use in our curriculum and will be collecting thousands more. We are in need of a storage solution for all of them. Ideally, the solution will be...

    *Web based so that our writes from around the country can access our photo database.
    *Allow for multiple labels/tags to be assigned to images. (For example: ifwe have an image of a whale we would like to be able to tag it as, "whale," "mammal," and anything else we might think relevant.
    *Allow for searching based on the tags/label.

    Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

    Thank You,
    Jason Maxwell
     
    stemscopesinteractives, Sep 18, 2013
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    Hactar Guest

    Idea:

    Hire a db geek to program a re-entrant indexing system that accepts (and deletes,
    with appropriate authentication) files, assigns and searches by
    (user-assigned?) tags. Then hire a web geek to write a front-end that
    accesses the database.
     
    Hactar, Sep 18, 2013
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Is there a reason you can't use a photo-sharing site such as Flickr or
    Photobucket?

    If you can use one of those that's the easy way to do it.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 18, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    Flickr. 1TB of data, fully searchable, plus photos can be restricted to
    "friends only".
     
    Sandman, Sep 19, 2013
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    John Ray Guest

    A good solution. Members of a group in Flickr can add tags to any
    photos in that group, which seems to be what is wanted here.
     
    John Ray, Sep 21, 2013
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    Mayayana Guest

    | >Flickr. 1TB of data, fully searchable, plus photos can be restricted to
    | >"friends only".
    |
    | A good solution. Members of a group in Flickr can add tags to any
    | photos in that group, which seems to be what is wanted here.
    |

    A science education organization that can't manage (or
    can't be bothered) to set up their own server. Instead
    they're going to host their operation on an ad-supported
    spyware site and force the students to use it. Am I the only
    one who thinks that's grossly unprofessional and comically
    inept?


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    Mayayana, Sep 21, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    yes.
     
    Guest, Sep 21, 2013
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Yes, you are.

    It's called "not reinventing the wheel".

    And your definition of "spyware" is a bit broader than most.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 21, 2013
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    Mayayana Guest

    | > Am I the only
    | > one who thinks that's grossly unprofessional and comically
    | > inept?
    |
    | Yes, you are.
    |

    Interesting that the first two people to disagree
    assume that *everyone* else agrees with them. :)
    Viva Channel1, eh?
     
    Mayayana, Sep 21, 2013
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    Hactar Guest

    FTR, I agree with you.
     
    Hactar, Sep 21, 2013
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Flickr expressly forbids any commercial links to images posted there, so
    using it for "advertising" is prohibited. They block requests from the
    more popular commercial sites--you can can't, for example, post images
    there of stuff you're selling on ebay and then link to those images.

    If the intent is to distribute content free of charge or hassle, it
    works perfectly. If you want to profit from your content then a stock-
    photography site would be a better bet.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 21, 2013
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    isw Guest

    So, what's your plan for when/if Flickr goes dark or changes their TOC?
    Before you say "that won't happen", remember Kodak's online image
    storage. People who didn't react fast enough in that case lost their
    images permanently, IIRC.

    Isaac
     
    isw, Sep 21, 2013
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    J. Clarke Guest

    Photobucket and Smugmug are two options, there are many others.
    How did they lose their images permanently? Did Kodak send storm
    troopers around to seize their computers or something?

    I'm sorry, but you seem to be conflating a distribution site with an
    archival storage site. I have many photos on Flickr. I have those and
    many more on my computer. If Flickr ceased to exist tomorrow, I would
    not lose anything except the time to upload to a different site.
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 21, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    Indeed, but we were talking about Flickr now.
     
    Sandman, Sep 21, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    So, what's your plan for when/if Flickr goes dark or changes their TOC?
    Before you say "that won't happen", remember Kodak's online image
    storage. People who didn't react fast enough in that case lost their
    images permanently, IIRC.[/QUOTE]

    Why would such an event lead to the loss of the images? Surely you're
    not deleting them from your hard drive after you've uploaded them to the
    hosting server, Flickr in this case? That would be stupid.

    The function of Flickr here is collaboration between people, not sole
    storage of image data. So when or if Flickr goes dark, you need only
    replace the collaboration part of the solution and re-upload the images
    to the new service.

    Which, incidentally, is the *exact same thing* you would have to do if
    you hosted it yourself and the server had a hardware failure, which is
    just as likely as Flickr going dark.
     
    Sandman, Sep 21, 2013
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    Guest Guest

    only stupid people lost their photos.

    anyone who has only *one* copy of their photos is going to lose them at
    some point, whether it's in the cloud or on a hard drive or a stack of
    dvds.

    the key is to have *multiple* copies and in more than one place, in
    case disaster strikes one of the places. putting the backup drive next
    to the main drive is also stupid. that's not a backup.
     
    Guest, Sep 21, 2013
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    elfa Guest

    Fail to see any trouble with saving images. I'm strictly fumbling amateur class
    and all I do is copy images to a removable hard drive and also upload same
    copies to http://postimg.org which is unlimited and free.
     
    elfa, Sep 21, 2013
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    isw Guest

    Why would such an event lead to the loss of the images? Surely you're
    not deleting them from your hard drive after you've uploaded them to the
    hosting server, Flickr in this case? That would be stupid.[/QUOTE]

    If you're clever enough to have backups of all the images, you still
    lose all the metadata, and all the associations between the images, that
    was created using Flickr's database. If you're going to keep all that
    too (assuming there's a way to get it off Flickr), then you may as well
    just stick it all in a database on a server you control, and back *that*
    up.

    If you value your data, take care of it yourself.

    Isaac
     
    isw, Sep 22, 2013
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    J. Clarke Guest

    If you "lose all the metadata" you're a bumbling incompetent. Flickr
    doesn't add any "metadata" that I did not provide to it.
    Flickr does not provide any "associations between the images" that I did
    not tell it to provide.
    There's no need to "get it off Flickr". I had it before I put any of
    the images on Flickr.
    You just can't get past the idea that data can only exist in one place,
    can you?
     
    J. Clarke, Sep 22, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    If you're clever enough to have backups of all the images[/QUOTE]

    A "science education organization", surely is that clever, no?
    Only the metadata you've entered in Flickr, the metadata in the files
    remains. And yes, this is exactly what I said in the part you snipped
    away. You
    And by "associations", I'm assuming you mean things like set/collection
    association.
    Why? You can back it up directly from Flickr via the API if you think
    that's necessary. You can use Flickr for the easy collaboration that
    works on the desktop, on mobile and then periodically back up your
    entire dataset to a server you control. That would be much preferable
    than trying to recreate the convenience that FLickr has spent years to
    create.
    Flickr doesn't prevent that, as has been explained.
     
    Sandman, Sep 22, 2013
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