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Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by stemscopesinteractives, Sep 18, 2013.

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    Sandman Guest

    I am not suggesting that, quite the opposite if you read me ;
    I suggested more to rent a server, system installed, server installed.[/QUOTE]

    Paid by this non-profit project, huh? Maybe you have free VPS machines
    to lend them?
    Are you claiming that the IT staff at every academic institution in
    America freely develops web based solutions for every curriculum project
    in their schools? Because if you're not - what does this thought change,
    really?

    And furthermore, if the IT staff of their school does this for free, why
    would they ask here?
    Correct. Ignoring the fact that this non-profit project surely doesn't
    have a budget to rent a server - just WHAT server software do they have
    to choose between, that meets their need?
    Looking at the screen shots, I'd say good riddance :)
     
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    Mayayana Guest

    | > I don't think a student doing a school project would refer to
    | > "working for a non-profit". We don't really know, since the OP seems
    | > to have abandoned the thread.
    |
    | Indeed. And regardless, it is clear from the OP that he/they are not
    | tech-literate and don't have any money (otherwise, why mention the
    | non-profit part?)
    |

    I think you've misunderstood the terminology. Working
    for a non-profit, in the US, generally means being employed
    by a company or institution that, at least on paper, does
    not make a corporate profit. (Even though the CEO could
    be paid millions.) In this case it sounds likely that it's
    something like an educational foundation doing R&D. Or
    it could be university researchers with a grant. Professionals.
    It doesn't mean the OP is not getting paid, and it doesn't
    mean there's no money for the project.

    |> I was addressing the issue of professionalism and ethics in setting
    |> up school children with an ad-supported, commercial service.

    | I, on the other hand, is addressing the topic at hand -
    | the needs for this specific poster.

    So... you never intended to respond to what I've actually
    written? OK. At least *that* is a clear response.
     
    Mayayana, Sep 24, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    No.
     
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    Paid by this non-profit project, huh? Maybe you have free VPS machines
    to lend them?
    Are you claiming that the IT staff at every academic institution in
    America freely develops web based solutions for every curriculum project
    in their schools? Because if you're not - what does this thought change,
    really?

    And furthermore, if the IT staff of their school does this for free, why
    would they ask here?
    Correct. Ignoring the fact that this non-profit project surely doesn't
    have a budget to rent a server - just WHAT server software do they have
    to choose between, that meets their need?
    [/QUOTE]

    In the US, if you want to get something done by the IT staff, more often
    than not, it's a matter of approach. If you approach a talented geek
    with a: "please do me a favor, I have a problem" attitude, more often
    than not they will give you some real help. (They might even do it on
    their own time.) They might even be able to dig up an old machine, that
    would function as a server.
     
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    In the US, if you want to get something done by the IT staff, more often
    than not, it's a matter of approach. If you approach a talented geek
    with a: "please do me a favor, I have a problem" attitude, more often
    than not they will give you some real help. (They might even do it on
    their own time.) They might even be able to dig up an old machine, that
    would function as a server.[/QUOTE]

    Maybe we can assume that this project doesn't have free help from their
    school IT department to solve their problem, given the fact that they
    are asking the question here.

    So the question remains.
     
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    Maybe we can assume that this project doesn't have free help from their
    school IT department to solve their problem, given the fact that they
    are asking the question here.

    So the question remains.[/QUOTE]

    We really don't know either way.
    I know one brick and mortar store, where the techie would give such a
    free service. That doesn't mean there are others, and it doesn't mean
    there are no others.
    All it means there is one, and a possibility of others. Most IT
    developers I know are individuals who will happily share if they think
    it's a worthy cause.
     
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Well, no, it doesn't. It means that the profits are not paid out to
    shareholders and must be reinvested in the organization. Non-profit
    hospitals make millions in profit. Those profits are supposed to be
    plowed back into the hospital for future growth and improvements.
    Often, the profits are invested or held for future spending and not
    immediately spent for growth and improvements.
    There are no limits on what the staff or executives can be paid unless
    the organization itself sets limits. It's common for a non-profit's
    CEO and other executives to be paid in the millions.
     
    Tony Cooper, Sep 24, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    We really don't know either way.[/QUOTE]

    Peter, that's why I used the word "assume" instead of "know". Why oh why
    would you reply with the fact that we don't know after I have made it
    clear that it's is logical to *ASSUME* a specific thing?? That's the
    entire premise of assumptions, that knowledge is lacking! Why post just
    to state the freaking obvious??

    <snip rest of post that didn't answer the question either>
     
    Sandman, Sep 24, 2013
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    PeterN Guest

    Peter, that's why I used the word "assume" instead of "know". Why oh why
    would you reply with the fact that we don't know after I have made it
    clear that it's is logical to *ASSUME* a specific thing?? That's the
    entire premise of assumptions, that knowledge is lacking! Why post just
    to state the freaking obvious??

    <snip rest of post that didn't answer the question either>
    [/QUOTE]

    And it is just a logical to assume the opposite.
    EOD further discussion is pointless
     
    PeterN, Sep 24, 2013
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    Tony Cooper Guest

    Correct. They would not be considered to be "scientists".

    Depends. There are many programs out there that award scholarships
    and grants to high school students in advanced placement classes.
    Some, if not most, of these are administered by non-profit
    organizations.

    "Working for" is a poorly chosen term. "Working under the auspices
    of" might be true. "Working for" connotes receiving a salary or other
    compensation based on time worked. The student might receive
    compensation for the work in the way of a scholarship or grant money
    to extend a project.

    The *student* might use the phrase "working for", but that only
    indicates a teenagers lack of understanding of the meaning of the
    phrase.

    Florida Power & Light offers $2,500 "STEM" grants to high school
    students involved in energy science projects.
    Being a non-profit does not indicate lack of money. A premier
    university is usually a non-profit organization, and they have a great
    deal of money to spread around.

    It's done all the time. Apple, for example, provides computers to
    schools. Apple has the "Apple Scholars Program". Many major
    corporations fund schools and students in one way or another. AT&T
    has "e-rate" services that are available to schools for internet
    purposes.

    Sure, the students who receive Apple products are disposed to use
    Apple products later in life, and the students who benefit by AT&T's
    program will consider AT&T favorably, but the benefits far outweigh
    any ethical concerns.
     
    Tony Cooper, Sep 24, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    Now let's see what sort of response that unread bit of information
    garners from the Baltic.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 24, 2013
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    PeterN Guest


    Damn! I have to lern never to have any liquid in my mouth when reading
    this NG. <G>
     
    PeterN, Sep 25, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    And it is just a logical to assume the opposite.[/QUOTE]

    No. It isn't. Assumptions aren't made on a 50% chance, Peter. Then they
    would be called guesses. Assumptions are made when you have data that
    supports the assumption and no data that supports the opposite.

    Just stop posting in these kind of threads. You are way out of your
    league.
     
    Sandman, Sep 25, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    You think Sweden is part of the Baltic?
     
    Sandman, Sep 25, 2013
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    Savageduck Guest

    You certainly have a coastline which has shores washed with Baltic
    waters, or do you call that sea something else. It is definitely not
    the Pacific. Though you also have North Sea access.
     
    Savageduck, Sep 25, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    It's the Baltic Sea, yes. Sweden isn't the Baltic Sea any more than
    America is "The Pacific" or "The Atlantic". :)

    "The Baltic" means the Baltic states, which are Estonia, Latvia and
    Lithuania, east of the Baltic sea.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltic_states

    The Baltic Sea is called East Sea (Östersjön in Swedish) and in most
    germanic languages.
     
    Sandman, Sep 25, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    No. It isn't. Assumptions aren't made on a 50% chance, Peter. Then they
    would be called guesses. Assumptions are made when you have data that
    supports the assumption and no data that supports the opposite.[/QUOTE]

    It is entirely possible to commence an argument on the basis of an
    assumption for which there is no foundation. For example, what kind of
    geometry emerges if one assumes that parallel lines meet at infinity?
     
    Eric Stevens, Sep 25, 2013
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    Eric Stevens Guest

    Eric Stevens, Sep 25, 2013
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    Mayayana Guest

    | It's the Baltic Sea, yes. Sweden isn't the Baltic Sea any more than
    | America is "The Pacific" or "The Atlantic". :)
    |
    | "The Baltic" means the Baltic states, which are Estonia, Latvia and
    | Lithuania, east of the Baltic sea.
    |

    You don't *always* have to be right. You
    could give others a bit of breathing space, rather
    than slamming and insulting everyone. You misread
    the original post because English is not your first
    language. That's understandable. (We English speakers
    are spoiled. Most of the Internet is in our language.)

    Maybe in turn you could forgive perceived errors in
    geography or in the definition of "assumption"?
     
    Mayayana, Sep 25, 2013
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    Sandman Guest

    You don't *always* have to be right.[/QUOTE]

    Obviously not, given the fact that I'm wrong a lot :)
    Wtf? Who did I "slam" and "insult"?
    Misread? Do you mean that Savageduck wasn't in reference to me - so why
    didn't he say so? Here's what he said:

    "Now let's see what sort of response that unread bit of information
    garners from the Baltic."

    My interpretation was the he was talking about me, and this was a jab at
    me killfiling a troll (hence the "unread" bit) that he thinks wrote
    something that deserves a response (I wouldn't know, I didn't read it).

    I replied with:

    "You think Sweden is part of the Baltic?"

    If we assume my initial assumption about him talking about me is right,
    the only "slam" and "insult" one could possibly infer from this is that
    I am highlighting a lack of knowledge. I'm quite sure Savageduck can
    handle the "heat" from that, though.

    But now you're claiming that I have misunderstood something - but what
    did I understand?

    It's quite clear that he wasn't in reference to a sea when he made the
    comment, since that would just be stupid. No one asks what response we
    may get from the pacific ocean when expecting response from an American.
    I have *total* understanding for Americans not knowing the first thing
    about geography outside the borders of the motherland, and wasn't
    surprised at all to see Savageduck make this error.

    I'm still not sure about the "slamming" and "insulting", though.
     
    Sandman, Sep 25, 2013
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