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Discussion in 'Photography' started by Mike Kohary, Jul 29, 2005.

  1. Mike Kohary

    dadiOH Guest

    As do I, didn't say you didn't. However, I can also make one light work
    very effectively.

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    dadiOH, Jul 31, 2005
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  2. Mike Kohary

    Sheila Marie Guest

    If that's what your clients like then so be it. I personally would not have
    hired you because I would want some shots that one cannot get from the back
    of the church or from a balcony. A professional knows how to get the shots
    the client wants without intruding or interfering with the flow of the
    ceremony. You achieved what YOUR clients wanted, so you did a professional
    job. I'll do what MY clients want and will also do a professional job.

    I've also noted in a few ceremonies that I was a part of (and could not be
    the photographer) that I did notice the photographer, but upon discussing it
    with others at the same ceremony, they did not. I think that this is because
    of my own focus on them due to my own interest in the field. I take note of
    photographers at any event they cover that I am a mere participant if for
    nothing more than to see what equipment they have and maybe see what their
    techniques are. People not remotely involved in photography do not care and
    do not notice them at all.

    Sheila Marie
     
    Sheila Marie, Jul 31, 2005
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  3. It's not about what people do or don't care about. It's about acting in
    a professional manner. I know of none of my former colleagues who would
    move around inside a church taking pictures during the ceremony.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Jul 31, 2005
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  4. Mike Kohary

    grolschie Guest

    The resulting photos would be crap in comparison to many less
    "professional" photographers.
    grol
     
    grolschie, Aug 1, 2005
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  5. Amateur...
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 1, 2005
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  6. Mike Kohary

    dadiOH Guest


    Keep in mind that most church officials forbid photography during the
    ceremony except by available light from the rear or sides. There are
    exceptions, of course...both Catholic and Shinto are generally quite
    liberal in their regulations.

    Also keep in mind that most of what happens during the wedding ceremony
    is verbal, not visual.

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    dadiOH, Aug 1, 2005
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  7. Mike Kohary

    JME Guest

    I must say that I always move around the church, and make arrangements long
    before hand for images that will be taken during the ceremonies.
    I always ask the Bride and Groom to kiss for at least 5 seconds, and I
    always ask that when every one enters the church to walk down the isle that
    they stop pause for 2-3 seconds. I go to the practice runs and usually shot
    during. This way everyone can get used to me and we can get a grip on the
    flow of things. The reality is that 20 years from the wedding the couple
    will look at their album have great memories. They won't pick up the book
    and curse the photographer because he asked them to do a few key things
    during the ceremony. Now get this I also have an assistant that has my
    quantum flash and small (8"x8") softbox mounted on a monopod. She swings
    that thing around Like a baseball bat, but at the end of the day the wedding
    is for the couple and they want images that are great... I give them great
    images. If I was asked to sit in the corner and shoot from one location, I
    would suggest that the client find someone could do that for them. I am sure
    that some of the images would be great, just not my style.

    JME
     
    JME, Aug 1, 2005
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  8. Mike Kohary

    grolschie Guest

    At the end of the day, it's the photos that count. If obeying some
    self-imposed rules means crap photos, I'd hardly call that professional.
    Did your clients ever ooh and aah at the ceremony photos that you took?

    Heck our photog even did cross processing and weird angles and stuff. He
    broke so many "rules" and the photos turned out awesome! We are glad we
    employed his services, and not some Randall-esque "professional".
    Otherwise our album would' ve sucked.

    We had video that was taken from further back in the church like you
    suggest, and it indeed sucked, much like the photos would have if taken
    like that.
    grol
     
    grolschie, Aug 1, 2005
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  9. Yep...and respect for the ceremony should be observed. It embarrassed
    me to have the Hasselblad noise. Then in the 80s when motorized film
    advance became so prevalent, I'd shoot with the EL and nobody really
    paid attention.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 1, 2005
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  10. It has nothing to do with style and everything to do with respect for
    the ceremony and where you're at. It's not your job to distract. And I
    would never tell anybody what to do when they're up there. Whatever
    happens, happens.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 1, 2005
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  11. You amateurs are so cute.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 1, 2005
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  12. Mike Kohary

    grolschie Guest

    This is not my opinion as an amateur photog, but as a consumer of photog
    services. But thanks for the compliment. :)
    grol
     
    grolschie, Aug 1, 2005
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  13. Mike Kohary

    grolschie Guest

    Ah yes, you must believe that God actually lives in a building made with
    human hands, am I right? That must be the case, because even with the
    express permission of the priest and bridal party you still seem to have
    a problem.
    And nobody really paid attention to the photographs I am guessing.
    grol
     
    grolschie, Aug 1, 2005
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  14. Mike Kohary

    Guest Guest

    Try doing that in St. Paul's Cathedral, you will be firmly ejected.
     
    Guest, Aug 1, 2005
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  15. Mike Kohary

    grolschie Guest

    Well you get permission prior. Always obey their rules.
     
    grolschie, Aug 1, 2005
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  16. Mike Kohary

    JME Guest

    Its all up to the couple, and the justice of the peace, ships captain , or
    priest. Whatever the case may be.
    Whatever happens, happens. I really couldn't say that to a prospective
    client. I think they want a bit more assurance.
     
    JME, Aug 1, 2005
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  17. What I meant was that I would never tell a couple to make sure and kiss
    for at least 5 seconds...stand on the "X", do this...do that...while
    their ceremony is going on.
     
    Randall Ainsworth, Aug 1, 2005
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  18. Mike Kohary

    Colin D Guest

    Try doing what, exactly? Your point is not clear. Further, from some of
    the royal functions I've seen in that edifice, there were more cameras
    than people, even dangling at dizzy heights from the ceilings with
    monstrous professional video broadcasting cameras. But you seem to be
    saying that ordinary people cannot have their ceremony photographed with
    a single still camera in that building. If that's true, then class
    distinction is alive and well. Most probably the question won't arise,
    though - the ordinary people wouldn't be allowed to marry in that
    hallowed hall anyway.

    Colin D.
     
    Colin D, Aug 2, 2005
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  19. Mike Kohary

    Mike Kohary Guest

    Man, do you even realize how insulting you are when you talk
    sometimes? You would never say something like this to a person's
    face, for fear of being punched, so why in the hell would you type it?

    About the only reasonable response I can come up with is: **** you
    too. By the way, the pictures turned out just fine.

    I'm about the ONLY person who has even slightly defended you in the
    past when you've made one of your blatantly rude comments. No much.
    You now get to be a grade-A genuine asshole all on your own.
     
    Mike Kohary, Aug 2, 2005
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  20. Mike Kohary

    Mike Kohary Guest

    Now THAT would have been a helpful suggestion right from the start, so
    why didn't you say that instead of blowing hot air the way you did?
    Learn a little couth and you might actually make a friend or two.
     
    Mike Kohary, Aug 2, 2005
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