Negative-only development and image privacy

Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by richardsfault, Aug 27, 2005.

  1. I have all my color film "develop-only" processed at a
    semi-professional (Ritz) mini-lab. Since I have no prints or contacts
    made, the process only takes about 15 minutes as printing is done on a
    second machine.

    During the development process, do the positive images ever become
    visible to lab personnel?

    Does this assure image privacy to a degree?
     
    richardsfault, Aug 27, 2005
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  2. Chances are no one has the time or inclination to bother looking.
    However if they do, color negative film can be examined by anyone use to it
    to determine rather well what is on it and the quality of the prints should
    be.
     
    Joseph Meehan, Aug 27, 2005
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  3. richardsfault

    Alan Browne Guest

    No. They can only see the positive on the printing system.
    At some stores here (Montreal), such as Japan Camera, there used to be a
    "privacy" check mark that applied to all developing. (prints too, no
    corrections, however). In this case they handed you the prints/negs,
    sight unseen (supposedly). [I don't know if this is still offered].

    The only way to know you will get develop-only privacy is to stand in
    the lab when they dev, cut and sleeve the negatives.

    There may be states/countries where the lab has an obligation to report
    crimes such as child pornography. From what I've seen as policies, it
    is much more insidious, as the personnel in the store decide what is
    pornography: See: http://central.onpix.com/com/terms.asp as an example.
    The store will report it, likely without a _legal obligation_ to
    report it. (Check the law applicable to where you develop).

    Sounds like a good policy until you're "tagged" with a "crime" you did
    not commit... Once the investigation opens ... try, just try, to clear
    your name and the trail of paperwork.

    Oddly enough, if a person takes their baby to a pro studio for the "bare
    butt baby on the fur rug" shot and that ilk, the studio develops the
    film at a pro lab (a real pro lab, not a store front), and make the
    prints for the parents. But if parents "do it themsleves", then some
    idiot behind a 1 hour printing machine can decide to report you... has
    happened... one famous case in Texas... others elsewhere...

    Cheers,
    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Aug 27, 2005
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  4. richardsfault

    Justin Thyme Guest

    I know of one photographer who does similar to what you describe - develop
    only at one lab, printing at another. The reason being, that when he used to
    get the whole lot done at the one place, he took a roll of film with
    lightning shots into one of the local pro-labs. When he went to pick it up
    they told him that they'd had a problem and the film was ruined - gave him
    the obligatory unexposed roll of film and see-ya-later. The bloke was a
    little upset, but recognised that sometimes these things happen. Several
    months later in a newsagency he spotted a calendar with one of his lightning
    shots on it - he knew it was one of his because his car was in the shot with
    the rego number visible. He started to take legal action, but in the end he
    couldn't definitively prove he took the photo.
     
    Justin Thyme, Aug 27, 2005
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  5. Those negative images will get you just as arrested as positives...

    denny
     
    Dennis O'Connor, Aug 29, 2005
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  6. richardsfault

    no one Guest

    I wouldn't count on it if you're taking pictures of stuff you shouldn't be.
     
    no one, Sep 3, 2005
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  7. I am not yet shooting anything that controversial, but may be
    progressing into nude-type work.

    The best things that could be done, short of going digital, would be
    to personally know who is developing your film, and remain at the lab
    during the development process, which can often be done in 15 or 20
    minutes on a "slow day".
     
    richardsfault, Sep 3, 2005
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  8. richardsfault

    no one Guest

    Well, for the best artistic type of nudes B&W is better anyway, so
    process it yourself.
     
    no one, Sep 8, 2005
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  9. Or just develop the film yourself. (all you need is good temperature control
    and an accurate timer) and then scan it into your computer and do the rest
    digitally.
     
    William Graham, Sep 8, 2005
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