Negative scanner?

Discussion in 'Scanners' started by evansx3, Apr 9, 2008.

  1. evansx3

    evansx3 Guest

    I have found many 100 year old negatives of my home town and would like to
    develope the photos. Iam told they are "photographer negatives" and they are
    very large ( about 8x10 ). Is there a scanner I could purchase to enable me
    to print out the photos?

    Thanks Mark
     
    evansx3, Apr 9, 2008
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    Ken Hart Guest

    Why not just take them into the darkroom and contact print them? Many
    exxcellent photograph have been made without the aid of a computer or
    scanner. Darkroom technology is mature, alive, and doing pretty well.
     
    Ken Hart, Apr 9, 2008
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  3. evansx3

    ray Guest

    I believe so. Last time I checked 8x10 slide/negative scanners were quite
    a bit more expensive than 35mm or medium format. I've used an Epson 4490
    which does medium format. I'd suggest you check their web site and see if
    they have any refurb units for sale which are capable of full page.
     
    ray, Apr 9, 2008
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  4. evansx3

    Frank Arthur Guest

    Are you serious? Darkroom technology is expensive, time consuming,
    uses up a lot of resources, requires a darkroom, special lighting and
    equipment and is dying out fast.

    Almost any flatbed scanner that also provides software that enables
    reversing the image would work. It would produce dry, finished images
    in minutes without a darkroom or the use of water.
     
    Frank Arthur, Apr 9, 2008
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  5. evansx3

    evansx3 Guest

    Let me just say that I am not a photographer Iam an old Bodyman for a Ford
    Dealership, so darkroom developing is not an option. Just thought the
    scanner option if cost effective would enable me to print them myself.

    Thanks Mark
     
    evansx3, Apr 9, 2008
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  6. evansx3

    Ken Hart Guest

    Wrong, pretty much all around.
    Equipment for contact printing consists of a piece of glass from the local
    hardware store, two or three tray-like containers from the housewares
    section of WalMart. The time required for each print may be 3-5 minutes,
    with a half hour when all the negs have been printed for washing and drying.
    As for resources, the two chemicals required neutralize each other when they
    are dumped down the drain and the water required is about the same as a
    family size load of laundry for a couple dozen 8x10's. A darkroom? No, a
    room that can be darkened, nearly. Special lighting could be a red Christmas
    bulb or no light at all (I usually work in a Dark darkroom).
    The scanned negatives will not have the gradual subtle tonality of an
    optical (or contact) print. Depending on how you print them, they will not
    have the life of a properly processed B&W print, rated at 200+ years.

    Darkroom tachnology is not expensive, not time consumung, does not use up a
    lot of resource, and last but not least, is not dying out fast! Try it out
    before you put it down.
     
    Ken Hart, Apr 9, 2008
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  7. evansx3

    Jim Guest

    I have an old Epson that will do up to 4x5, but I suspect one that will
    do 8x10 will be expen$ive.

    Might be easier to put them on a light box and photograph them. Reverse
    the image in your photo editing software
     
    Jim, Apr 9, 2008
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  8. evansx3

    Frank Arthur Guest

    You don't need a negative scanner. The least expensive flatbed
    scanners take at least 8 1/2 x 11 inch negatives or prints- then
    reverse image using the software.
     
    Frank Arthur, Apr 9, 2008
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  9. evansx3

    evansx3 Guest

    After researching your dark room idea and talking to a friend who used to do
    photography I think I will give the dark room a shot. I guess I thought it
    was much more complicated than it is. Also I think I will enjoy the process
    and the photos more having learned something new and created them myself.
    Report will follow after my attempts in a week or two.

    Thanks again Mark
     
    evansx3, Apr 9, 2008
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  10. evansx3

    Ken Hart Guest

    Good for you! If you have darkroom questions, you may email me at the
    address below.

    The darkroom prints will be better quality and last longer. The cost of a
    darkroom print compares favorably (or better than) an inkjet print on
    quality paper (paper similar in appearence and feel to photographic paper).

    (To those who want to debate the long-life of photographs compared to inkjet
    prints, my response is we can compare your 150 year old inkjet prints to my
    150 year old photographs. Oh wait, you don't have any 150 year old inkjet
    prints?)
     
    Ken Hart, Apr 9, 2008
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  11. evansx3

    Anon Guest

    How would you arrange a backlight and disable the scanners internal light?
    If you've ever tried scanning a negative with a normal flatbed scanner
    you'll know the results are next to useless otherwise.
     
    Anon, Apr 9, 2008
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  12. evansx3

    ray Guest

    See - e.g. Epson V700 photo - 8x10 transparency adapter.
     
    ray, Apr 9, 2008
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  13. evansx3

    Guest Guest


    Or you could by some photographic paper, a bare 20w light bulb, a tray for
    developer, another one for stop, one more for fixer, go into a darkened room
    with a safelight, put the negative onto the paper, cover up some of the
    paper with black card, switch the light on for a second, reveal a bit more
    of the paper, expose for 2 seconds, reveal a bit more paper and expose for 4
    seconds (etc.), take the paper to the developer and follow the timing
    instructions that came with the chemicals until you see a magical image
    appear before your very eyes, when it's fully developed put it into the stop
    bathe for a short time, then into the fixer for the required time, rinse of
    the chemicals in the bath, hang up to dry and be amazed a what amazing
    quality you can get from an 8x10 neg. That is what Edward Weston used to do
    and he was quite good.
     
    Guest, Jun 22, 2008
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