New 50mm Lens From Nikon

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Manzoorul Hassan, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Yes, that's all you spout these days.

    In the beginning you were comical and I thought you might have
    been paid by Canon to discredit Nikon. But nowadays, talking to
    you is picking a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
    Yes, sure, *that's* Canon's equivalent!
    My lawyer will talk to your lawyer about your wantonly neglient
    assault and battery due to the paroxysms of laughter you continue
    to cause.

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jan 24, 2008
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  2. I'm sitting in my office, looking at my wall, where a 4 x 6 poster hangs. A
    scene of my hound taken with the horrible 18-70. Amazingly sharp, it's
    beautiful. Again, your fatass posts has no basis in reality. I expect more
    from you than bad pics.





    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Jan 24, 2008
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  3. This, in itself, is an indicator that VR/IS is totally ineffective at focal
    lengths of 50mm and wider. Even luck won't prevail.




    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Jan 24, 2008
  4. A company with six weak legs is worse off than a company with two strong
    legs. Canon, as a company, has two dead legs. They can't produce decent
    optics and have lost the sensor race. And now that Kyocera and Fujitsu are
    killing them in the copy machine business they are now struggling.





    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Jan 24, 2008
  5. So, you got the ovaries to short the stock??
     
    John McWilliams, Jan 24, 2008
  6. No more than copy machines do, but cameras do not require the picture to be
    already made and printed by something else.

    Well, yes, there is something to be said for that. I'll keep an eye out for
    Canon pots and pans the next time I'm in Wal-Mart.

    Neil
     
    Neil Harrington, Jan 24, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    Guest, Jan 24, 2008
  8. Neil Harrington, Jan 24, 2008
  9. Manzoorul  Hassan

    Mr.T Guest

    Nikon's VR may be, but my Canon IS lens definitely gives sharper results
    when used wide angle at slow shutter speeds.

    MrT.
     
    Mr.T, Jan 25, 2008
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    Rita, do promise me to audition as a politican or stand-up comic.
    You have great talent telling tales that have not the slightest
    resemblance to reality.

    -Wolfgang

    PS: Conan has 2 strong legs and cuts off your head.
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jan 25, 2008
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    Muhaha.

    Les me try again:
    After years of trying, I managed to flip a coin so that it
    showed heads 20 times in a row. Now, if if flip the coin
    again, what chance that it's heads again?

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jan 25, 2008
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    Poor Rita, being stood up by ... gasp ... Canon!

    -Wolfgang
     
    Wolfgang Weisselberg, Jan 25, 2008
  13. Wolfie, he sounds like a real Barbarian to me.




    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Jan 25, 2008
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    Kinon O'Cann Guest

    Yeah, the kind who could chew your ass off. No, wait. Not even a T-Rex could
    chew that ass off.
     
    Kinon O'Cann, Jan 25, 2008

  15. Same as the previous twenty: 50%... er, unless it's a "special" coin!
    :)

    WW- Please know that "Rita" is quite bright, and you'll never get "her"
    to agree to reason. It's sad to see such potential rot on the sidelines.
     
    John McWilliams, Jan 25, 2008
  16. Manzoorul  Hassan

    Mr.T Guest

    Theory would say 50:50, same as always.
    However any imbalance in the coin, and any particular way of tossing it may
    result in a slightly biased result in practice.

    MrT.
     
    Mr.T, Jan 26, 2008
  17. Manzoorul  Hassan

    measekite Guest

    I just cannot believe all of the bullshit I am reading on many many different posts.  It is just like the old days.  My mommy's lens is sharper than your mommy's lens.

    Who really cares.  If you take a good photographer who shot a photo with a Canon and Canon lens and then the same photographer used a Nikon with a Nikor lens and then edited and printed them (in the same with with the same printer and paper) to a size of 11x14 and showed the results to 100 different photo enthusiasts ( not the general public) and asked them to identify which is better I would say most (unless the cheat or guess or lie) could not tell the difference.  They may see some differences in color or tone but other than taste or preference they could not choose one as being the best on a consistent basis.

    Mr.T wrote:

    "Rita Berkowitz" <> wrote in message news:...



    This, in itself, is an indicator that VR/IS is totally ineffective at



    focal



    lengths of 50mm and wider. Even luck won't prevail.



    Nikon's VR may be, but my Canon IS lens definitely gives sharper results when used wide angle at slow shutter speeds. MrT.
     
    measekite, Jan 26, 2008
  18. Manzoorul  Hassan

    Mr.T Guest

    different posts. It is just like the old days. My mommy's lens is sharper
    than your mommy's lens.
    Canon and Canon lens and then the same photographer used a Nikon with a
    Nikor lens and then edited and printed them (in the same with with the same
    printer and paper) to a size of 11x14 and showed the results to 100
    different photo enthusiasts ( not the general public) and asked them to
    identify which is better I would say most (unless the cheat or guess or lie)
    could not tell the difference. They may see some differences in color or
    tone but other than taste or preference they could not choose one as being
    the best on a consistent basis.
    --------------------------------

    If you only ever print to 11x14 and you never crop, and if pincushion and
    barrel distortions, spherical and chromatic aberrations etc. are of no
    importance to you, then just about anything short of a coke bottle will
    suffice. Some art galleries are full of polaroids and nobody ever accused
    them of being the utmost in quality.

    Rita's crusade however is just plain stupidity, many makers have made some
    fine lenses AND some horrible dogs over the years (including Nikon and Canon
    AND many others). Collectors like her tend to get fixated on brands, real
    photographers use what is appropriate, or what they have, or can afford.
    Nikon (and Canon) have made some fine lenses, but many others would argue
    that companies like Zeiss are far better.
    However you can have two similar lenses that are better at different things.
    This especially applies to zooms, but fixed lenses can be better at some
    apertures and not others, and then there are issues like "bokeh" (one of
    Rita's hobby horses) to consider. How then to pick the best lens, let alone
    one single manufacturer of maybe 50 lenses or more!

    Nobody I know of has ever properly compared every single lens from every
    manufacturer anyway, so blanket statements are just an ignorant attempt to
    feel superior, or to justify their personal bias.

    MrT.
     
    Mr.T, Jan 26, 2008
  19. Stupid in what way? I've shot both platforms for years and had many Canon
    FD lenses that were made obsolete by Canon's stupidity of abandoning the
    best mounting system and optical formula they ever had. I had to sell my
    whole collection of FDs because they don't work on EOS without a *NOW*
    available adapter. I won't make the same mistake twice, but almost did. I
    was going to start another complete Canon lens collection and decided
    against it. The main reason is Canon's lens quality is abysmal compared to
    when they were making FD lenses. And there's no reason now with Nikon's
    great FF sensor technology that the competitors will never be able to reach.
    Nikon simply set the bar too high for the wannabes to catch up!





    Rita
     
    Rita Berkowitz, Jan 26, 2008
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    George Kerby Guest

    Doesn't make any difference. You couldn't produce a decent image with a
    camera whether a pinhole or a Linhoff. Give up, "Rita".
     
    George Kerby, Jan 26, 2008
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