New camera:- Memory card advice needed

Discussion in 'UK Photography' started by Paul Giverin, Mar 26, 2006.

  1. Paul Giverin

    Paul Giverin Guest

    After years of threatening, I've finally bought myself a semi-decent
    camera which should arrive tomorrow.

    Its a Minolta A200 and I'll need to get a Compact Flash card for it.
    I'll probably go for a 1Gb card as prices seem to be falling but I'm
    confused by the different speed ratings (and prices) of these cards.
    Will it make any great difference if I buy the cheapest (slowest) card
    with the camera I am getting?

    Paul Giverin, Mar 26, 2006
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    harrogate2 Guest

    There are VERY few cameras on the market that can use anything other
    than a x1 CF card. If your camera is able to do so it will say so in
    the instructions; if it is not mentioned then assume not.

    Think very carefully about card size. Whilst 1Gb is useful as it holds
    a lot of pictures, it is also a lot of pictures to loose if it fails
    or is stolen (I speak from bitter experience!) I carry several 256Mb
    cards instead.

    Best price at the moment is probably whom I have used
    without problem for some years. They usually supply Viking brand and I
    have had no trouble with them.

    I'm sorry to tell you this, but I assume you realise that
    Konica-Minolta recently announced that they are pulling out of the
    camera market to concentrate on office products?
    harrogate2, Mar 26, 2006
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    Paul Giverin Guest

    Well that answers my question..... thanks.
    Yep, I was aware of that. Having splashed out on the camera (which was
    more of a "want" rather than a "need"), I'm looking at cost. If I can
    buy two 512Mb cards for the price of a single 1Gb then I'll do that.
    Thanks, I've looked at them among others.
    Yes, I was aware of that. I did leave it a bit late with my decision to
    but the A200. Most places were out of stock and I think I bought the
    last one from Pixmania. If I hadn't faffed about and bought it a month
    ago, I could have saved about £30. As for the after sales and warranty
    side of things, I believe that Sony are handling that aspect.

    Thanks for your help.
    Paul Giverin, Mar 26, 2006
  4. Actually, many cameras give noticeably better performance with a fast
    card, but I don't know the specs for the Minolta A200. Moreover, you
    should consider the time it takes to copy the photos to the computer.
    A fast card can spare you quite a bit of waiting here, provided you
    use a separate card reader rather than read directly from the camera.
    Måns Rullgård, Mar 26, 2006
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    ongar_route Guest

    I don't know if it is relevant to the OPs query, and it may have just
    been bad luck, but I have just had to have a month-old 1Gb Crucial
    CompactFlash card replaced as it was showing signs of corruption
    problems. This was being used in a Konica Minolta D-SLR.

    I bought this card as it was the best price I found at the time, but I
    am now doubting the wisdom of that decision. I thought Crucial were one
    of the best memory companies, but this card issue has shaken my
    confidence. I certainly wouldn't go for the cheapest card if I was
    buying again... In my opinion, a slightly higher price is better than
    risking losing pictures.

    That said, kudos to Crucial for a very efficient exchange. From the
    hassle-free web-chat to diagnose the problem, through the call to a
    very friendly young lady organising the exchange, to delivery of the
    new card 3 days later it was one of the best warranty return
    experiences I have had.

    Hope some of this is helpful

    ongar_route, Mar 26, 2006
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    Neil Barker Guest

    Ye what ????
    Neil Barker, Mar 26, 2006
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    harrogate2 Guest

    You can get CF cards in x1, x4, x12, x40, and x100, but there are very
    few cameras - other than some of the very latest DSLRs - that are able
    to take advantage of anything above x1 speed. It always says so in the
    hamndbook if they can.
    harrogate2, Mar 27, 2006
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    John Bean Guest

    1x would be 150kB/sec... which means it would take 10
    seconds just to write a modest 1.5MB JPEG.

    You only need do a little research to see how wrong your
    statement is, and I doubt a "X1" card even exists. If I'm
    wrong please supply a reference to a real example.
    John Bean, Mar 27, 2006
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    Mike Guest

    Minoltas will work with all CF cards, but not all "fast" cards will actually
    be fast in a Minolta*.
    You are safest to stick with Sandisk or Lexar cards - Sandisk Ultra II or
    the Lexar equivalent will allow you to get the best out of the camera, as
    well as being relatively future-proof.
    Luckily, the price of Sandisk cards has tumbled recently.

    Sandisk Extreme III is over-the-top for Minoltas and is not worth the extra
    cost for fractional reductions in write times.

    You will DEFINITELY be disappointed in the camera's performance if you get a
    cheapo slow card!

    * The various CF manufacturers have their own methods of accelerating the
    write and read speeds. For reasons best known only to themselves, Minolta
    have chosen to support (and test their cameras with) only the Sandisk and
    Lexar methods.
    For instance, a Fuji 100x CF, (which should be well above the camera's speed
    capability) is nearly 8 times SLOWER than a Sandisk U II (~60x) in a Konica
    Minolta 5D.

    Mike, Mar 27, 2006
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    Paul Giverin Guest

    Well I was swayed by the fact that I had a £15 voucher to use at Amazon
    so I went for a 1Gb Fujifilm x20 card. That meant that the card cost me
    £17 so if I've made the wrong choice then its not too much to lose.

    The camera arrived today and I'm still trying to plough through the
    manual. What do all those buttons do? ;)
    Paul Giverin, Mar 27, 2006
  11. Miracles! ;-)

    Have fun.
    John Cartmell, Mar 28, 2006
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    Neil Barker Guest

    Oh, I'm perfectly aware of different speed CF cards. I simply find your
    statement to be a tad ridiculous - 1x speed is 150k/sec and if it were
    the case that most digicams wrote at that speed, they'd take absolutely
    ages to write files.
    Neil Barker, Mar 28, 2006
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    Liz Guest

    In message <[email protected]>
    I'd assumed, being the Typo Queen, that the 1x was a typo.
    I'd also like to point out that if the 350D's handbook says what speed
    of CF it uses, that info isn't available by using the index, but it
    certainly writes very fast to a fast card. (Predictably, it tries to
    scare you into using only Canon-brand CFs!)


    Liz, Mar 28, 2006
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    harrogate2 Guest

    I admit to standing corrected about the slowest writing speeds, but I
    stand by my comments about the highest speed cards.
    harrogate2, Mar 28, 2006
  15. Canon was recently giving away Sandisk cards with some of their
    cameras. Presumably they are considered safe. There was a real issue
    with the 350D and (some) Lexar cards. A firmware update fixed this.
    Måns Rullgård, Mar 28, 2006
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    Neil Barker Guest

    Oh, quite - I've got some Lexar 80x cards, plus a Sandisk Extreme -
    they're great in my D2X, but wouldn't give the same advantage in say my
    Ixus V430.
    Neil Barker, Mar 28, 2006
  17. But irrespective of the camera, copying the photos to the computer
    will be faster with a faster card. Sometimes this is a factor worth
    considering, sometimes it's not.
    Måns Rullgård, Mar 28, 2006
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