New camera

Discussion in 'Photography' started by tony cooper, Jul 4, 2012.

  1. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    I just bought a Fuji F660exr compact camera as a "take with" camera so
    I'll always have something in the car. I still haven't figured out
    the settings. It has full manual and RAW, and 15X, but the manual is
    online only so I can't figure out how to set shutter or aperture. It
    has GPS, but I probably won't ever try that.

    I tested it for the first time today. Incredibly difficult for me to
    adapt to. I kept bringing it up to eye level to look for the view
    finder that isn't there. I can't get used to holding it up in front
    of me at arm's length.

    Just to test the zoom capability, these two shots were taken from the
    same spot of the same thing without zooming and at full zoom.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64147677/2012-07-04-71.jpg

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64147677/2012-07-04-70.jpg

    No effort was made to capture an interesting photo or in composing.
    Both were shot as .jpgs, auto settings, and neither has been cropped.
    Both were resized from 3264 px x 2176 px to 1800 px x 1200 px.

    Fuji has some cockamamie proprietary editing program, but I found I
    could download via Bridge and open in Photoshop just as I do with my
    Nikon images.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 4, 2012
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    ray Guest

    I've always applied an 'annoyance factor' to any consideration of a
    significant purchase. If it has something that is going to bug me every
    time I use it then I keep looking.
     
    ray, Jul 4, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    : I just bought a Fuji F660exr compact camera as a "take with" camera so
    : I'll always have something in the car. I still haven't figured out
    : the settings. It has full manual and RAW, and 15X, but the manual is
    : online only so I can't figure out how to set shutter or aperture.

    Why is the online manual a problem? Are you having trouble downloading it?

    : It has GPS, but I probably won't ever try that.

    We're obliged, of course, to notify the SI Committee if you manifest a
    recalcitrant attitude. You may be required to undergo re-education.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jul 4, 2012
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    Max Guest

    I might use GPS when traveling but I can't see any plus when taking
    photos of my woodworking projects. comments?

    Max
     
    Max, Jul 4, 2012
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    ray Guest

    Only that 30 years from now, if you've moved a few times, you may wonder
    where you were when you did what.
     
    ray, Jul 4, 2012
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  6. tony cooper

    tony cooper Guest

    I got the camera yesterday, but didn't have time to open the box until
    today. I took it with me to a 4th of July parade and tried a few
    shots there and at lunch after.

    Back now, I'm reading the manual online (a .pdf) and printing out only
    those pages that contain something I'll want to carry with me. I'm
    not going to print out all 150 pages. At the parade, I couldn't
    figure out some of the settings.

    I like the good old days when printed manuals were supplied with
    everything.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 4, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    Download it and you will have the PDF on screen, and you can print
    individual pages which might be frequently referenced.
    Yeah! Right! ;-)
     
    Savageduck, Jul 4, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    There is a time and place for everything, the use of GPS metadata &
    geo-tracking is one of those.

    Regarding Tony's shots, he might know exactly where these images were
    shot, but some of us might also like the idea of having that knowledge.
    If the GPS data is included in the metadata, our (yours truly & Alan
    Browne's) question need not be asked as the answer would be right at
    hand.

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64147677/2012-07-04-71.jpg

    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/64147677/2012-07-04-70.jpg

    So for now the shooting site remains for some of us, a mystery site. ;-)
     
    Savageduck, Jul 4, 2012
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    Max Guest

    Sonny, if I'm still alive 30 years from now I won't care where I was
    when I did whatever I did. ;-)
     
    Max, Jul 4, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    On 2012-07-04 15:43 , tony cooper wrote:

    It has GPS, but I probably won't ever try that.

    Ah, c'mon, give it a whirl next time you're out and about...
     
    Alan Browne, Jul 4, 2012
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  11. tony cooper

    Alan Browne Guest

    The whole notion of integrated GPS is to record when and where a photo
    was taken. Tony bought this as a "always along for the ride" camera.

    To me the tagging of photos with location and time shot is one of the
    most natural things to do. That info can be used by the shooter many
    years from now, or by all manner of historians, anthropologists,
    genealogists in the future.

    I wouldn't want you to do so with your woodworking (in most cases) but I
    do hope Tony turns it on for one of his adventures...
     
    Alan Browne, Jul 4, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : >On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:43:21 -0400, tony cooper <>
    : >wrote:
    : >: I just bought a Fuji F660exr compact camera as a "take with" camera so
    : >: I'll always have something in the car. I still haven't figured out
    : >: the settings. It has full manual and RAW, and 15X, but the manual is
    : >: online only so I can't figure out how to set shutter or aperture.
    : >
    : >Why is the online manual a problem? Are you having trouble downloading it?
    :
    : I got the camera yesterday, but didn't have time to open the box until
    : today. I took it with me to a 4th of July parade and tried a few
    : shots there and at lunch after.
    :
    : Back now, I'm reading the manual online (a .pdf) and printing out only
    : those pages that contain something I'll want to carry with me. I'm
    : not going to print out all 150 pages. At the parade, I couldn't
    : figure out some of the settings.
    :
    : I like the good old days when printed manuals were supplied with
    : everything.
    :
    : >: It has GPS, but I probably won't ever try that.
    : >
    : >We're obliged, of course, to notify the SI Committee if you manifest a
    : >recalcitrant attitude. You may be required to undergo re-education.
    : >
    : >Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jul 5, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    In your final year or so you might be surprised by what info from the
    past is of interest or joy to you.
     
    Alan Browne, Jul 5, 2012
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    Robert Coe Guest

    :
    : >On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 15:43:21 -0400, tony cooper <>
    : >wrote:
    : >: I just bought a Fuji F660exr compact camera as a "take with" camera so
    : >: I'll always have something in the car. I still haven't figured out
    : >: the settings. It has full manual and RAW, and 15X, but the manual is
    : >: online only so I can't figure out how to set shutter or aperture.
    : >
    : >Why is the online manual a problem? Are you having trouble downloading it?
    :
    : I got the camera yesterday, but didn't have time to open the box until
    : today. I took it with me to a 4th of July parade and tried a few
    : shots there and at lunch after.
    :
    : Back now, I'm reading the manual online (a .pdf) and printing out only
    : those pages that contain something I'll want to carry with me. I'm
    : not going to print out all 150 pages. At the parade, I couldn't
    : figure out some of the settings.
    :
    : I like the good old days when printed manuals were supplied with
    : everything.

    I think all my Canons, and certainly all the DSLRs, have come with a printed
    manual. It's tiny, which is nice for throwing in a camera bag, but not always
    the best for a trifocalled old geezer like me. So I like to print full-size
    copies for use when I'm not travelling or out on a shoot. Indeed, the last
    thing I did before I left work yesterday afternoon was print out a newly
    issued 7D manual. They're coming out with a much-ballyhooed firmware upgrade
    next month and decided they needed a new manual to incorporate the changes.

    Bob
     
    Robert Coe, Jul 5, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    From what I have been able get from the web, the Fuji implementation of
    GPS has not been well received, with long lock times of 2-4 minutes and
    then rather iffy recording of data. It seems that getting a lock and
    fixing location is inconsistent.

    On top of that, along with offering tracking, and location fixing, it
    seems that Fuji also uses an in camera, proprietary location ID data
    base to get a "close to" location rather than a true GPS fix.
    Sort of "you were 800 ft. from Trafalgar Square" type of data.

    Perhaps Tony could verify just how well his Fuji GPS works by taking
    some shots of locations well known to him, and checking against the
    Fuji GPS tags.
     
    Savageduck, Jul 5, 2012
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    Alan Browne Guest

    Especially since it doesn't have GPS.

    I was curious to the point of looking at the brochure, the dpreview and
    the manual.

    No mention of GPS at all ...

    the F550EXR does have GPS. And there is a GPS logo on the top of the
    camera.
     
    Alan Browne, Jul 5, 2012
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    Max Guest


    Interesting discussion. Some new perspectives.
    Thanks.

    My EOS 60D doesn't have GPS capability.
    What's the *easiest* way to geotag the photos?

    I bought a Canon SX260 partly for that reason.
    But I wouldn't want to take a picture with the SX260 and then another
    one with the 60D
     
    Max, Jul 5, 2012
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    Savageduck Guest

    I have got mixed information on the GPS in Fuji compacts. The F550EXR
    has GPS which nobody seems to be happy with.
    Fuji claims to have GPS in the F660EXR, but does not include anything
    related to GPS in the specs, or in the manual.
    Steves-digicams.com just give a spec preview with no mention of GPS.
    <
    http://www.steves-digicams.com/came...660exr/fujifilm-finepix-f660exr-review.html#b
    Imaging-resource.com notes the F770EXR GPS as an upgraded F660EXR with
    GPS added. No mention of GPS in the F660EXR
    <
    http://www.imaging-resource.com/new...f750exr-f660exr-three-new-f-series-long-zooms
    No mention of GPS here;
    < http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/fujifilm_finepix_f660exr_review/ >
    or here;
    <
    http://shop.retrevo.com/m/s/FujiFil...eras-review-manual/id/24056ci154/t/1-2/?rt=sp
    Then in the press release from dpreview specs is the statement, "GPS - None".
    < http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/01/05/FujifilmF660 >

    So I have a feeling that the sales guy at BestBuy told Tony that it had
    GPS on board, and sold a feature found in the F770EXR GPS.
     
    Savageduck, Jul 5, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    To unravel the mystery, they were taken from the porch of the Black
    Hammock Restaurant on Lake Jesup. The grandchildren were with us, and
    they like this place. The restaurant/fish camp/air boat rides
    place/boat ramp has some captive alligators on display, but standing
    on the boat ramp you can usually spot a gator or two in the lake.
    Lake Jesup supposedly has the largest population of alligators of any
    lake in Florida.

    The view from the porch is of a gift shop, air boat ride ticket booth,
    boat launching ramp, and a lakefront bar.

    The boys had Cajun Gator Bites. Alligator meat is a bit too chewy for
    me, but the boys like them. Gator reminds me of calamari in taste and
    texture.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 5, 2012
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    tony cooper Guest

    Did it, doing it, and that's what was planned. Just not a chance
    before the first outing. The parade was at 10:30 AM.
     
    tony cooper, Jul 5, 2012
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