New D-70 - Lots of problems

Discussion in 'Photography' started by Herman de Vries, Mar 23, 2005.

  1. Herman de Vries

    Mike Kohary Guest

    rofl...that's a hilarious story. ;) Of course, my original statement
    assumed you actually got a product new out of the box. In cases like yours,
    the negative bias is totally warranted. ;)

    (And no, the RS's in my area share the Radio Shack Rep for good reason. The
    only reason I ever go there is if I need a cord or connector I can't easily
    find anywhere else, usually for my stereo, TV or video game system.)
     
    Mike Kohary, Mar 31, 2005
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  2. Herman de Vries

    Mike Kohary Guest

    That's a great example of digital/analog being neither "inferior" or
    "superior"...just different. It's a subjective thing, not an objective
    thing.
     
    Mike Kohary, Mar 31, 2005
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  3. Herman de Vries

    Mike Kohary Guest

    I believe digital workflow and process is far superior to analog methods,
    and few can reasonably deny that. Digital storage is fast and clean, it
    doesn't degrade, it can be copied any number of times with no loss of
    quality, and it naturally lends itself to the easy organization of even
    massive amounts of material. Analog simply can't compete in this area - the
    advantages are inherent in the medium.

    But otherwise, you're absolutely right - aesthetically, neither is "better",
    they are just different. The subjective element can't be quantified, and it
    just comes down to personal taste. Also note that even the advantages
    listed above can be subjective - I say they're "superior", but only in the
    practical, pragmatic sense. It may be that some *enjoy* the older ways of
    doing things, even if they are not as efficient or productive. I myself
    collect vintage computer and video game systems, and while many of them are
    absolutely primitive by today's standards, I have a warm place in my heart
    for many of them.

    What can be difficult is not letting your subjective feelings intrude on
    your objective intelligence. That is where many in such digital versus
    analog debates fail.
    Of course that's true. My statement was meant very generally, and assumed
    that all other things were equal. Assuming that, digital is capable of more
    accurately capturing reality. But again, perhaps that's not what's desired
    aesthetically, and that's perfectly legitimate as well.
     
    Mike Kohary, Mar 31, 2005
  4. I beg to differ. They may be shipped without lenses attached, but they
    do have a plastic cover. It is not as if the sensor is exposed to
    outside air to any significant degree. You should be able to go a long
    time without dust problems with proper care.
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Mar 31, 2005
  5. While I also have had problems with Best Buy over the years, I would not
    knock them as a place to buy a camera if all things align correctly.
    First, I bought my D-70 at Best Buy? Why?

    1. It was local.
    2. It was the same price as National Camera Exchange ... the best local
    retailer around the Twin Cities.
    3. They offered me 0% financing for 18 months ... better than paying
    CASH!
    4. A great coverage plan.

    So ... there were good reasons to use them rather than a better retailer
    like National Camera Exchange.
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Mar 31, 2005
  6. Where?
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Mar 31, 2005
  7. You don't HAVE to use the autofocus or autoexposure or auto anything
    else.

    I see no reason at all why this picture couldn't be taken with a digital
    SLR (i.e. D-70 in context of this thread) and at the same or better
    quality.
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Mar 31, 2005
  8. But photographs are composed by humans. There lies the art.
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Mar 31, 2005
  9. Herman de Vries

    paul Guest

     
    paul, Mar 31, 2005
  10. Herman de Vries

    Dirty Harry Guest

    Agreed, we'd all be allot better off...personally I did that about a week
    after I started coming to this group.
     
    Dirty Harry, Apr 21, 2005
  11. Herman de Vries

    wavy~dave Guest

    Yes, I agree as well. Into the killfile immediately from now on.
     
    wavy~dave, Apr 21, 2005
  12. Keep it all in context, the real problem is that UC can't afford a DSLR
    ;-)
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Apr 29, 2005
  13. Herman de Vries

    UC Guest


    If I desired such an item, I could afford it. I do not.
     
    UC, Apr 29, 2005
  14. It was a joke ... we already know your opinion on the matter.
     
    Thomas T. Veldhouse, Apr 30, 2005
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