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  1. That depends on which one of the 57 states he is in at the time.
    Pete Stavrakoglou, Feb 11, 2010
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    J. Clarke Guest

    One example--there was a large appliance store in Springfield, MA, almost on
    the CT border, that sold quite a lot of appliances to people in Connecticut.
    If one took delivery in MA then they collected the MA sales tax, but if the
    appliance was delivered to CT then they didn't collect any sales tax. One
    day they were raided by the MA tax authorities working in cooperation with
    the CT authorities, and everyone in CT who had had an appliance delivered
    got a bill for the use tax.
    J. Clarke, Feb 11, 2010
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  3. A New York State resident is required to pay the difference in sales tax to
    New York for any item purchased out-of-state. If I buy a camera from a
    reseller in another state online, they do not charge me the sales tax. I am
    required by law to pay New York the difference.

    There was an infamous occurance years ago when Ikea opened a store in New
    Jersey, not far from NYC. Ikea advertised in MYC for the new store, noting
    that the sales tax in New Jersey was much lower and the New Yorkers could
    therefore save money. New York State sent tax authorities to the store in
    New Jersey to surevey the parking lot. Any car with a New York licens plate
    was pasted with a warning that they owe the difference in tax to New York
    and that they better pay. This was akin to the state of spying on its
    Pete Stavrakoglou, Feb 11, 2010
  4. I'll take her over the current mistake in the White House in a heartbeat.
    Pete Stavrakoglou, Feb 11, 2010
  5. Sounds like you are confusing her with Obama. He never had to make a hard
    decision in any facet of his career before becoming president. At least
    Palin has experience running something.
    Pete Stavrakoglou, Feb 11, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    What you are referring to is not the rate of tax involved, but the
    evasion of tax. If you have a boat in Florida (that is kept/used here
    permanently), and don't register that boat in Florida, you are evading

    You are more likely to be busted by the Marine Patrol than you are the
    tax authorities. Also, you are likely to reported by the marina

    If you are using your boat in Florida while visiting Florida, you can
    do so for 90 days without registering it. Longer than that, you must
    register it.
    Sure, but if you are visiting Florida you need not register your
    automobile in Florida. If you move here, you do, and you will be
    charged sales tax if the car was purchased less than six months prior
    to your move, but you only pay the difference (if any) from what you
    paid in the other state. You must register the auto within 10 days of
    moving here if you (a) are employed in Florida, and/or (b) enroll a
    child in a Florida school. You must also insure the auto with a
    company licensed in Florida (most national companies are) and obtain a
    Florida driver's license.

    The gray area is the snowbird who lives in Florida part of the year
    and lives in another state the rest of the year. Usually, a retiree.
    They can usually get away with not registering the car in Florida
    unless they get a ticket or are reported by someone. If they are
    stopped by the police for a traffic infraction, and either don't have
    a Florida driver's license or Florida license plates, they may have to
    prove in court that they are not residents of Florida.

    BTW, these are just Florida rules. Every state has a different set of
    rules, and nothing above may pertain to other states.
    tony cooper, Feb 11, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    You are required to make such a declaraton on your New York Income tax
    return. BTW some retailers such as Amazon, do collect the NY sales tax.
    Peter, Feb 11, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Even though she has no ability to think. Yes, she is an excellent public
    speaker. Excellent public speakers have caused the deaths of millions.
    Peter, Feb 11, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    The general rule is if the seller has a presence (store, outlet,
    office) in the state, they must charge sales tax, where applicable, to
    sales made to residents of that state.

    Ritz Camera gets around that by having their stores in Florida owned
    by one corporation and their online sales entity owned by a different
    tony cooper, Feb 11, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    Running away from running something is a better description. With
    Palin as President, she'd lose interest in the job if things didn't
    go her way and find some other bright and shiny object to play with.

    To me, she's like the Bearded Lady in the carnival sideshow...people
    will pay to see her, but nobody wants to take her home.
    tony cooper, Feb 11, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    I was referring to the difficulty of enforcement.
    Similarly, if you purchase a camera on the net and don't pay the sales/use
    tax on the transaction you may very well be comitting criminal tax evasion.
    Don't know about marinas in your neck of hte woods, but here, the private
    ones did little or no reporting, as it waas not in their interest to do such
    reporting. As to the marine patrol, it depends on the use and registration
    of the vessel. Why would not e Coast Guard registration be sufficient as a
    vessel used n interstate commerce.
    For purposes of this discussion I am referring only to ordinary pleasure
    craft. There is a wholly different set of rules for commercial boats.

    Suppose I take weekly trips to Bimini and stay there for a few days. Do I
    have an obligation to pay the use tax?

    Absolutely true.
    Peter, Feb 11, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    AFAIK Amazon has no presence in NY. Our tax authorities are proactively
    attempting to encourage online retailers to collect and turn over the sales
    tax. For several years there have been ongoing negotiations between the
    various States for an inter-state compact, regarding collection of sales
    taxes. There are lots of constitutional and business difficulties with such
    a compact. (most states have lots of problems being paid sales taxes
    collected by their resident businesses.) Though some inter-state compacts
    have been working well, at least in the income tax area.
    Peter, Feb 11, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Actually, my wallet. I resent subsidizing the lifestyle of these people. the
    rebuilding is done by the Army Corps of Engineers. then after the dunes are
    restored and the homes rebuilt, I am not even allowed to walk on the beach I
    paid for. O.I I can walk on the beach, I am just not allowed to park my car
    or bicycle anywhere near it, unless I am, or know a resident. I had to beg
    to get permission to stop and take pictures of an osprey nest.
    Peter, Feb 11, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    I know. I said "generally" because the usual situation where sales
    tax is collected by the seller is when the seller does have presence.
    The tax authorities in the states would like to see the exclusion of
    the requirement of presence, and are therefore pressing for *any*
    sales being delivered to their state subject to sales tax. They want
    the Ritz-type of evasion of tax collection eliminated as well as
    non-evasive tactics where the seller clearly has no presence.

    Businesses will fight this because it would require them to file in
    every state where something they sell has been purchased. That's a
    massive increase in paperwork for them. As the former owner (now
    retired) of a business that sold to customers in other states, I can
    personally attest that this would be a major PITA for the business.
    Each state with a sales tax has a different reporting system, a
    different set of sales-tax-exempt products, and a different rule for
    sales-tax-exempt customers.
    tony cooper, Feb 11, 2010
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    tony cooper Guest

    And I have. I'd say that 99% of the people who purchase items on the
    internet are guilty of evading sales tax if they live in a state that
    imposes sales tax.

    Criminal, though? I don't know. If caught, you might be required to
    pay the tax, interest, and a fine...but I doubt if criminal charges
    would be brought.
    If you owned a marina, would you want your customers harassed by state
    officials looking for violators? If you were a state official,
    though, a word to the marina owner to either report violations or be
    subject to repeated visits could make it to your interest to
    The "marine patrol" in Florida is the Florida Fish and Wildlife
    Commission. They inspect private watercraft for safety regulation
    compliance, licenses, violations of fishing laws, boating operation,
    and boating in restricted zones

    Any private boater in Florida can expect to be stopped by the marine
    patrol at some time if even for a safety inspection.
    What's Bimini have to do with it? Florida hasn't annexed Bimini.
    What pertains is where you dock your boat between trips and where you
    have your primary residence. Where you go when you are on the water
    is irrelevant in this case.
    tony cooper, Feb 11, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Smirk. Orwellian logic at its best.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 11, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    So, when Bush puts the country into the worst recession since the
    depression, runs up trillions of dollars of debt, and kills hundreds
    of thousands of people in multiple wars that's god, but trying to get
    the country out of the mess while not creating a depression is bad.

    No wonder you people are called rightards.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 11, 2010
  18. ???
    You see me mystified and scratching my head.

    How is a system that charges exactly the same percentage from
    everyone[*] regressive, or even worse "extremely regressive", in
    absolute terms?
    And how is it more regressive in relative terms (if that's what you
    meant) than sales tax where rich cities, which are rich because rich
    people are living there, don't leverage sales tax while poor cities have
    no other choice?

    *: In reality there are typically 3 or 4 different levels of VAT, none
    or reduced for basic needs like e.g. food, standard, and high for luxury
    items, thus actually making it a rather progressive tax because
    low-income people are unlikely to buy large amounts of the high-taxed
    luxury items.

    Jürgen Exner, Feb 11, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    This type of avoidance of responsibility by Ritz, is not evasion, although
    it may be assisting its customers to commit tax evasion. That being said, in
    certain areas that issue has somewhat been solved in the income tax area
    through use of the Federal related party transaction rules. In the foreign
    tax area we have subpart F in the Internal Revenue code. California has the
    unified entity concept. That concept has not been applied in the area of
    sales tax. I doubt that without a change in the Interstate Commerce Clause,
    that the concept could be applied.

    I think that any requirement by one state attempting a business with no
    connection with that state, other than shipments into that state, would be a
    violation of the Instate Commerce Clause, absent some reciprocal agreement
    between the different states. Any interstate compact must provide for a
    uniform reporting system. The record keeping requirements and exemption
    issues would be a definite PITA.
    Peter, Feb 11, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Don't know the statistics. However, that is why the question is being asked
    on our income tax returns. Making a knowingly false statement on an income
    tax return is a crime. As to enforcement, that sometimes depends on what
    else is on the return.
    Peter, Feb 11, 2010
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