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  1. Bruce

    Ray Fischer Guest

    To some degree nearly every corporate CEO is a greedy, selfish
    moneybag. It's nearly a job requirement.
    Give me $40,000,000,000 and I'll do the same. I'll even promise to
    give away 99.99% of the money and keep only 0.01% for myself.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 12, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Given that Obama has spoken impromptu on many occasions and
    demonstrated that he is quite capable it is obvious that you're just a
    bitter bigot and a liar
    Ray Fischer, Feb 12, 2010
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    Bruce Guest

    VAT would put a stop to that.
    Bruce, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    And your comment shows your ignorance, or deliberate misrepresentation of
    our tax structure. You also ignore the legitimate social needs that must be
    paid for. Your F--key 'em, let them starve attitude is nothing short of
    selfish arrogance. Since we have had this discussion before, I will probably
    not respond further, so take you best shot.
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    You obviously refuse to recognize the responsibility of a CEO, regardless of
    the size of the corporation. When you open up in the morning and realize
    that x number of people are looking to you for guidance and depend on your
    skills to prevent starvation, or to promote a reasonable life style, you
    should recognize that you have an awesome responsibility. Sure, some are
    greedy turds, but they are in the minority.
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Palin has no well thought out policy. If I am wrong, please tell me what it
    BTW I was in Alaska last Summer, passed through Wasilla and could not see
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    I have seen far too many CEO's laying off $60,000/yr workers so that
    they can continue to take home $20,000,000/yr. To think that a
    typical CEO has the interests of employees as a priority is naive.
    If they cared about employees or the company then they'd be getting
    $1,000,000/yr and using the extra money to keep 200 employees producing
    products to sell.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 13, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    A "conservative" republican who was governer of a state that relies
    quite heavily on federal money.

    Anyone who would vote for Palin is an idiot.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 13, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Remember that Graham gets a lot of services from the government in the
    form of Medicare and Social security, and he likes a powerful military
    which costs a lot.
    Pah. That's loose change for the federal government. It also hasn't
    happened in the last quarter century.
    Bush pushed sending astronauts to the moon. Obama killed that.

    But you like Bush and don't like Obama.

    The obvious conclusion is that you're just a political bigot who
    cares only about the "republican" label.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 13, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Not only do I believe it, I've seen it.
    Like the CEO?
    Ray Fischer, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Your comments make it obvious that you know absolutely nothing about
    business. A good CEO holds the interests the company first. In a public
    company, he is accountable to the board, who represents the interests of the
    owners. To maintain and grow a healthy company. A good manager recognizes
    that the workers are the lifeblood of the company. In the example you gave,
    we really don't know if the employee was a slacker, or redundant. I don't
    know if you have ever had to let someone go. I have, and will tell you it's
    not an easy thing to do. But, you seem to think that a company is some sort
    of magic fountain that simply produces money to allow workers to show up and
    get paid, regardless of their contribution to the company, or lack thereof.
    A good CEO is paid because he produces value to the company. If he is not
    adequately paid, he goes elsewhere. If he does not produce value to the
    company, he goes elsewhere, for a different reason.
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    We agree on something. Remember Bill votes his for pocketbook, not humanity.
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    I would settle for 2,000 nationwide. Sadly, there are many who take oratory
    over substance
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    LOL! Is that what they tell you?
    ROFL! The board represent the shareholders?!? And you really believe that?

    When was the last time a board member got fired by the shareholders?
    When was the last time shareholders picked a board member? Or CEO?
    If any of your beliefs were true then we wouldn't see corporations
    spending so much to hire and train workers only to fire them a few
    years later and then repeat the process again.

    Sure, there are some good CEOs, but there aren't many.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 13, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Nobody wrote that and lying only makes you look like a bigot.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 13, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    He votes for his cult and not for humanity or his pocketbook.
    Ray Fischer, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    How about some examples: You are making accusations of clear violations of
    rhe SEC Regulations.

    They? Suggest you get over your bitter pill and learn something about the
    reality of business before you open your mouth.
    And just how do you think a director becomes a director. He/she is elected
    by vot of the shareholders. It's becomming obvious that you have never owned
    stock in a public company. It is also obvous that you never have run a
    successful business, or if you have, you are just blowing smoke.
    Read this and learn.

    My statements are based upon personal observation and experience. What are
    your statements based upon?

    More than you would admit. Wow! You certainly are a fountain of
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Are you saying you receive no benefit from being a member of our society?
    Please clarify.
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    So you want the benefits without paying for them. I get it, you should only
    pay for the direct benefits you think you need. Not to help society as a

    Just start with a few common costs. Since you know how much to spend, why
    don't you fill in the blanks.

    Military: = ?
    Education = ?
    Domestic security protection = ?
    Road maintenance = ?
    Court system = ?
    Helping our genuinely indigent to survive = ?

    Come on Billy boy, you have investments. What is the cost of the government
    helping to maintain the integrity of your money.

    If you expect the benefits of living in our society without paying for them,
    you are a worse thief than Robin Hood.
    Peter, Feb 13, 2010
  20. [replying to C J's posting because Bill has been in my killfile for a
    long time. And obviously for very good reasons, see below]

    He happens to be living in Bellevue, WA, USA, which happens to have
    about 8% sales tax (plus probably a few percent slapped on by King
    County and the city of Bellevue).

    What does income tax have to do with the difference between sales tax
    and VAT? Are you tossing red herrings around again?

    Jürgen Exner, Feb 13, 2010
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