New Epson PX/PM ink technology - Print Longevity lies confirmed!

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by David Chien, Oct 23, 2003.

  1. David Chien

    David Chien Guest

    http://www2.i-love-epson.co.jp/catalogue/colorio/IMG0002903-1.PDF

    Notice how on page 2 & 4 of this brochure, they happily state in
    Japanese that until now, inkjet prints have a 1 (one) year lifespan
    before significant fading occurs! - This is Epson talking about Epson's
    own inkjets!

    Note that this 'orange-faded' print is exactly what many Epson users,
    especially the Epson Photo 870, have experienced but have never gotten a
    proper fix (except full price printer buyback offers).

    http://www.p-o-v-image.com/epson/
    http://www.p-o-v-image.com/epson/links.htm
    eps. pictures here of fading http://members.cox.net/rmeyer9/epson/

    It only took Epson three years or so to get around to releasing better
    inks for us consumers(Epson 870/1270 launched in Feb 2000)!

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    While the Epson 2000p/px4000/etc series that use encapsulated inks have
    performed quite well re: fading, keep in mind that the lower end inkjets
    that use the PM G inkset will only last 10-20 years in ideal conditions
    (less if abused) whereas the PX G through PX V inks are rated for 30
    through 80 years (only the G series will last longest).

    All this means is you can relax a bit about not having to neurotically
    glass shield every print as before from fading, but you can't expect the
    prints to last longer than 5 years or so (10 years / 2) if simply left
    out in the open I'd say.

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    Good fuel for someone with a creative bent and can figure out a class
    action lawsuit on this one, esp. given how they had been tooting
    long-lasting prints (later retracted or limited in scope; yeah, right -
    1 year now that they've told us) on many of their earlier printers such
    as the Epson 870.
     
    David Chien, Oct 23, 2003
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  2. David Chien

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    Storing prints in photo albums does help. Got inkjet prints from 10+
    years ago that look fine today that were stored in albums/folders. Air
    & light exposure are the #1 killer of prints.

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    Long print life?
    $200 or less? Easy! Any dye-sub printer!

    Dye-sub printers use solid inks that don't fade like inks, and you can
    expect the prints to last far longer like regular photo prints.

    eg. the Sony DPP-EX5 $199.95
    http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INT...gitalPhotoPrinters&ProductSKU=DPPEX5&Dept=dcc

    You can easily find dye-sub printer from Sony, Olympus, Canon,
    Mitsubishi, etc. that will let you print true dot-free photos that will
    last a long time.

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    Clogs?
    Same as any other inkjets. They eventually will just because of the
    paper dust & inks clogging nozzles.

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    Cheaper than PhotoAccess?

    Costco.com stores at $0.24 per print; Walmart.com for $0.26 (vs. $0.29
    photoaccess)
    Cheapest, good place available for printing digital images to photo paper.

    If Walmart still uses the ==Fuji Crystal Archive== papers as I remember,
    you will then have the longest lasting photo prints available cheap for
    a regular customer.

    (Fuji CA papers have been tested to last the longest of regular consumer
    photo papers vs. kodak's, etc. with 50-100+ year lifespans in proper
    storage.)

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    Dying Lexmark Z53? Cheap replacement?

    Epson 925 in my book. You can print directly from digital camera flash
    cards. Does a great job on photo prints to Epson Premium Glossy Photo
    Paper, and given that all inkjet prints will fade faster than dye-sub or
    real photo prints, might as well enjoy the prints for the fun of it --
    after all, just assume you'll have the original images on CD and you can
    print another copy anytime! (and you'll print the long-lasting ones at
    Costco to real photo paper)
     
    David Chien, Oct 25, 2003
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