New Epson PX/PM ink technology - Print Longevity lies confirmed!

Discussion in 'Digital Cameras' started by David Chien, Oct 23, 2003.

  1. David Chien

    David Chien Guest

    Notice how on page 2 & 4 of this brochure, they happily state in
    Japanese that until now, inkjet prints have a 1 (one) year lifespan
    before significant fading occurs! - This is Epson talking about Epson's
    own inkjets!

    Note that this 'orange-faded' print is exactly what many Epson users,
    especially the Epson Photo 870, have experienced but have never gotten a
    proper fix (except full price printer buyback offers).
    eps. pictures here of fading

    It only took Epson three years or so to get around to releasing better
    inks for us consumers(Epson 870/1270 launched in Feb 2000)!


    While the Epson 2000p/px4000/etc series that use encapsulated inks have
    performed quite well re: fading, keep in mind that the lower end inkjets
    that use the PM G inkset will only last 10-20 years in ideal conditions
    (less if abused) whereas the PX G through PX V inks are rated for 30
    through 80 years (only the G series will last longest).

    All this means is you can relax a bit about not having to neurotically
    glass shield every print as before from fading, but you can't expect the
    prints to last longer than 5 years or so (10 years / 2) if simply left
    out in the open I'd say.


    Good fuel for someone with a creative bent and can figure out a class
    action lawsuit on this one, esp. given how they had been tooting
    long-lasting prints (later retracted or limited in scope; yeah, right -
    1 year now that they've told us) on many of their earlier printers such
    as the Epson 870.
    David Chien, Oct 23, 2003
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    David Chien Guest

    Storing prints in photo albums does help. Got inkjet prints from 10+
    years ago that look fine today that were stored in albums/folders. Air
    & light exposure are the #1 killer of prints.

    Long print life?
    $200 or less? Easy! Any dye-sub printer!

    Dye-sub printers use solid inks that don't fade like inks, and you can
    expect the prints to last far longer like regular photo prints.

    eg. the Sony DPP-EX5 $199.95

    You can easily find dye-sub printer from Sony, Olympus, Canon,
    Mitsubishi, etc. that will let you print true dot-free photos that will
    last a long time.


    Same as any other inkjets. They eventually will just because of the
    paper dust & inks clogging nozzles.


    Cheaper than PhotoAccess? stores at $0.24 per print; for $0.26 (vs. $0.29
    Cheapest, good place available for printing digital images to photo paper.

    If Walmart still uses the ==Fuji Crystal Archive== papers as I remember,
    you will then have the longest lasting photo prints available cheap for
    a regular customer.

    (Fuji CA papers have been tested to last the longest of regular consumer
    photo papers vs. kodak's, etc. with 50-100+ year lifespans in proper


    Dying Lexmark Z53? Cheap replacement?

    Epson 925 in my book. You can print directly from digital camera flash
    cards. Does a great job on photo prints to Epson Premium Glossy Photo
    Paper, and given that all inkjet prints will fade faster than dye-sub or
    real photo prints, might as well enjoy the prints for the fun of it --
    after all, just assume you'll have the original images on CD and you can
    print another copy anytime! (and you'll print the long-lasting ones at
    Costco to real photo paper)
    David Chien, Oct 25, 2003
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