New equipment advice

Discussion in 'Professional Video Production' started by Stmphggr, Jun 27, 2004.

  1. Stmphggr

    Stmphggr Guest

    Hi Everybody,
    I am a newbie to posting although I have been spying on this group for a
    long time. I have seen new people get flamed, belittled and ignored but for
    the most part I have seen folks get advice from some really knowledgeable
    people.

    I hope to fall into the latter category.

    I have been at this video thing for some time now as evidenced by my editing
    equipment (PC/Win98, Premiere 5.1). I think it's time to upgrade, but to
    what?

    I have never had any problems with this equipment but now, with more people
    requesting DVDs for example, I feel I need a faster machine with an on-board
    burner, more ram etc.

    But alas, I am very confused by what I read. I have read that the Avid
    xpress machines are very buggy, and premiere pro is not everything it should
    be. I have read that the Matrox systems are limited and that Final Cut Pro
    should be avoided. The best advice I have seen yet is "stick with what you
    know." In my case, that is a Windows machine with Premiere. Problem is, I
    am hesitant to throw 3-5 thousand at a new machine and have it be no better
    than what I have.

    So here is the question....does anyone have advice, based on experience,
    that would point me towards a specific retailer and equipment? I want a
    turn-key system as I am in the middle of projects now and do not want to
    fool around with setting a machine up from scratch.

    BTW, I do mostly corporate stuff but like most of us I am looking for the
    opportunity to do some of my own storytelling.

    Thanks in advance, Tim (the Stmphggr)
     
    Stmphggr, Jun 27, 2004
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    Ryan Boni Guest

    Hey Tim,

    B&H has a Premiere Pro turnkey system for $1599.95. The only thing you
    don't get is a monitor (which you can use off of your old system). I bought
    a Premiere 6.0/Pinacle DV500 DVD system from them a while back and it works
    great. Does take a couple of weeks for you to get it as they do their
    custom installation, but it was nice knowing that it would work from the
    moment I started it up because it was tested by them. It was the first true
    NLE we were buying for our station, so I didn't want the extra hassle of
    messing with setup at that time. With so many conflicting cards, software,
    and hardware out there, sometimes it can be worth it to spend a little extra
    cash to buy a turnkey and let someone else do it and test it out.

    You will need to buy a DVD burner, because the system they list just has a
    CD burner.

    Two things: do you need to do any analog capture? I believe the system
    only has a firewire capture card. Although, obviously there are many ways
    to capture analog to it.
    Second, B&H gives you the biggest freakin' tower you've ever seen with their
    systems. Make sure you have space for it.

    If you want a system geared toward DVD production, they also have a Sony
    Vegas 5.0 + DVD turnkey on there for $2499.95 (the listing lists it as 4.0,
    but the kit lists it as 5.0--I emailed them and they said it should read
    5.0). 5.0 is a new release and there haven't yet been a lot of reviews in
    here on it. Anyone using Vegas 5.0 yet??

    Hope that helps,
    Ryan

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    Ryan Boni, Jun 27, 2004
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    Stmphggr Guest

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    From: "Ryan Boni" <>


    With so many conflicting cards, software,
    My point exactly.
    I would like to know too. I've been reading about it but I don't know if it
    has advantages over P-Pro. That is to say, advantages worth re-learning
    for.
    It does, thanks for the input. Have you seen this system or do you know
    this retailer?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3823203561&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1

    To the uneducated eye, this sounds like it could potentially do everything I
    need.

    Tim
     
    Stmphggr, Jun 27, 2004
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    Mike Kujbida Guest


    You'll find more users over in rec.video.desktop. Having said that, I'm
    sure there are more than a few of us here using it. I've had mine for about
    a month now. I don't consider myself a "power" user so I haven't had a
    chance to test the new features added in 5.0 (such as bezier masks). What I
    really do like is DVD Architect 2.0. I had it less than a week and I did a
    school performance with a main menu and a scene selection menu consisting of
    10 selections - something version 1 couldn't do.
    I have no hesitation in recommending Vegas to anyone - especially if they're
    looking to do audio work of any kind. Vegas leaves Premiere Pro & FCP in
    it's dust.

    Mike
     
    Mike Kujbida, Jun 27, 2004
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    Ryan Boni Guest

    It does, thanks for the input. Have you seen this system or do you know

    That's when you should start to worry!!! Just kidding.

    I've not had any dealings with Dream Video. This auction seems a bit
    confusing. It sounds like they want you to upgrade to their Pro edition to
    get the software. Part of the listing makes it sound like you get the
    software, other parts make it seem like it's just the computer. I'd ask a
    lot of questions of the seller before purchasing. The Matrox cards are
    great cards from what I've heard from friends of mine who use them (I've
    stuck with the Pinnacle cards so far myself).

    Again, I see B&H (I know I keep referring to B&H, but it's always a good
    starting point & place to compare prices) has a Matrox RT.X100 Xtreme Pro
    turnkey system for $3399.95 & a Matrox RT.X100 Xtra turnkey for $2529.95.
    So it seems the price they are asking (assuuming it's the Pro & not the
    Xtra) that's listed on eBay is in the right ballpark.

    Ryan


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    Ryan Boni, Jun 28, 2004
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