New fix to the firmware fix for the 20D

Discussion in 'Australia Photography' started by Ken Chandler, Oct 7, 2004.

  1. Ken Chandler

    Ken Chandler Guest

    As posted in the news section at dpreview, version 1.0.5 of the 20D firmware
    has been released:

    http://www.dpreview.com/news/0410/04100701canon_eos20dfw105.asp

    Apparently a bug in the program for firmware 1.0.4 was responsible for some
    cameras failing after the update in cases where a lens was fitted to the
    body at the time of the firmware update.

    No mention of erasers, checksums or blaming people for not reading
    instructions as best I could see.

    Regards,

    Ken
     
    Ken Chandler, Oct 7, 2004
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  2. Ken Chandler

    Ryadia Guest

    Now why would they blame their customers for not using the checksum with
    a MD5 file when they don't explain how to do it in the first place?
    Don't forget most camera owners are photographers, not technicians.

    According to DP review over 98% of updates were successful. Mine
    certainly was. Why do you think too, I posted a message about cleaning
    the contacts on older lenses with an eraser? Wouldn't be to make sure
    they had good connections and made for successful use, do you suppose?

    I get pretty sick of dickheads just trolling this group, looking for the
    opportunity to take somebody down. You Ken are just such a person. Maybe
    1 in 10 of your posts actually addresses a photographic issue. The rest
    are bash-ups on other posters. Why don't you get a life man?
     
    Ryadia, Oct 7, 2004
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  3. Pot calling the kettle black if you ask me. Case in point.... your last lot
    of tripe that you posted about me.
     
    AU Digital POTD, Oct 7, 2004
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  4. Ken Chandler

    Miro Guest

    Since when ?
     
    Miro, Oct 7, 2004
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  5. Ken Chandler

    Ken Chandler Guest

    THEY didn't, a poster calling himself "Child of EOS" did:

    "Child of EOS" was wrong to accuse users, Canon have admitted there was an
    error in the program for the previous firmware 1.0.4. What other names does
    Child of EOS post under?

    You did?

    Keep_it_Simple was wrong to accuse users with dirty lenses for causing the
    problem. Canon have admitted there was an error in the program for the
    previous firmware 1.0.4. What other names does Keep_it_Simple post under?

    Cleaning contacts for good body/lens communications is alway a good idea,
    but if you read Keep_it_Simple's post it doesn't seem at all why it was
    being suggested.

    I, and a whole bunch of other posters are kind of "sick of dickheads" who
    turn out to be one dickhead changing his posting ID to support his own
    arguments, spread dodgy advice and hang shit on people. For example ...

    There was a poster that came in here talking shit about how crap the 20D
    stating how much better the 10D was, see, he had a 10D on eBay for sale at
    the time and was doing his best to scare people off the 20D until his 10D
    sold. As soon as his auction closed on eBay he came in here and jumped into
    a thread of people looking for a good price on a 20D announcing what a great
    price he'd gotten on a 20D at a shop he could reveal the name of. Someone
    called him about it and he got aggressive and changed his posting ID.

    You aren't talking to one of your pen-names now.
    Yes you Russ, Narelle, Miro, the list goes on.

    Is it fair and honest to post under multiple names? Pretending to be
    different people to support your own arguments and causes? Is it fair to
    dispense dodgy advice and then change ones name again when someone catches
    you out?
     
    Ken Chandler, Oct 7, 2004
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  6. What tripe?
    That you "lent" a 70~200 f2.8 lens to someone who used it track-side at Indy
    and gave it back full of race fuel and you then sold it (after having it
    cleaned) to someone without telling them it's history? If you call that
    tripe, you are as bad as Chandler. Do you actually understand the concept of
    ethics?

    Ryadia
     
    Karlos Vedulanos, Oct 7, 2004
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  7. Welcome to the news group Karlos Vedulanos, (I think I had that for dinner
    last night! LOL!!!!!!!!)

    What tripe? The tripe where you claimed that I was selling a "stuffed"
    lens...... I will say again.... the lens had been "fully cleaned and service
    by Canon and given a 100% clean bill of health. To imply that I did
    anything to mislead the buyer as to the lenses current condition at the time
    of sale is unjust". I guess airlines should provide a full service history
    of their planes to each and every passenger as they get on. To do anything
    else would be unethical. I guess anyone who doesn't tell you that the wheel
    bearings had been replaced on their 2nd hand car that you are intending to
    buy would be "unethical".... etc .....etc ....etc

    Oh!... & BTW, How do you what I did and didn't tell the buyer? Were you
    there? Were you the buyer? Geez I hope not... because the thought that I
    may have invited you into my home makes me sick!

    What tripe? The tripe where you implied that I was involved in some "issue"
    regarding my ISP. What issue? I am still waiting for details on that
    one... but no, you are happy to imply something without offering the glimpse
    of detail as to what the **** you are talking about. The rest of us can
    only sit here and scratch our heads. YOU of all people should know about
    defamation considering the whole "reward/technoaussie shutdown" thread/s.

    Do I understand ethics? Indeed I do... but do you? The 10D/20D
    sale/purchase that Ken mentions is a classic!!!
     
    AU Digital POTD, Oct 8, 2004
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  8. Ken Chandler

    Child of EOS Guest

    What dodgy advise are you talking about Ken?
     
    Child of EOS, Oct 8, 2004
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  9. Ken Chandler

    Child of EOS Guest

    Ahhh. Struck a nerve, eh?
    Somehow you seem to think attempting to make out a lens undergoes a
    "service" in the same way a car does is OK, just so long as you get to
    sell it for as much as you can get as if it was "like new". If you had
    promoted the lens as having "just been repaired or just been cleaned" or
    even having just had all it's seals replaced, I would have been more
    tolerant of your tactics.

    In earlier times you passed yourself off as an ISP. "Just like the old
    ISP days" ... Touch another nerve here, perhaps?

    Any time you want to try a defamation action against me for reporting
    information which "may be in the public interest" feel free. Plenty
    before you have though they could cleanse themselves in court and
    discovered the law is for all of us.

    It's true that there is no law to force disclosure on a seller. Ethics
    are not about avoiding disclosure for profit but to avoid doing to
    others what you would not want them to do to you. If there needs to be
    laws to force ethics on the community, it's probably just as well Howard
    disarmed the nation.

    Selling my 10D was 100% ethical and legitimate. It hadn't been abused,
    hadn't been pumped full of fuel and needed all it's seals replaced and I
    got a fair price for it because I reported it honestly and gave the
    buyer a money back guarantee. The buyers set the price, not me or my
    posts about the 20D's faults.

    I bought a 20D in the knowledge they were giving problems because the
    lenses I wanted for the alternative camera I had in mind were not
    available. All the problems I reported are correct, the suggestions of
    how to overcome at least some of them were proven and I'd be real
    flattered to think I could manipulate a market by posting truthful
    reports of these problems.

    Of course Ryadia is not my name,
    it is the name of my boat.

    I post from several PCs thruout the day (and some evenings). The
    different names are not for your use or confusion but to help me
    identify where I was and which PC has the records of conversations on
    it. I couldn't care less what you make of that.

    The day you and Chandler and the "Dickheads" actually get a life will be
    the day the Internet moves towards becoming a community... Or is that
    concept as complicated for you as the one about ethics?
     
    Child of EOS, Oct 8, 2004
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  10. You tell me what the difference is.... if both are restored to full working
    condition? What's so special about a lens?
    Tactics? ...Oh please! The buyer was made fully aware that the lens had
    been cleaned and serviced by Canon. ...again, were YOU there?
    Ummmm... I was an ISP! I traded under the name of BusinessOZ and I
    specialised in providing internet access & web hosting to the business
    sector. I sold the business and it has since been resold to become part of
    Westnet. Would you like to see my tax return?

    Shot yourself in the foot again, perhaps?

    and answering your own posts... is that because you have trouble identifying
    who you are also?? ...or is that just because you get lonely?
    People only need to look at your NG history to know who much you understand
    about community.
     
    AU Digital POTD, Oct 8, 2004
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  11. Ken Chandler

    BD Guest

    Of course Ryadia is not my name,
    who ever you are, would be great if you and your other aliases took a hike
    and found a new hobby other than passing defamatory comments...

    you are the pot and the kettle and any other alter ego you go by - more like
    a toilet bed pan!!
     
    BD, Oct 8, 2004
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  12. Ken Chandler

    BD Guest

    Well I guess this community has TWO village idiots, and one of them is
    giving the original a good run for his money. He is also trying to look
    like 30 village idiots, all backing his self righteous views...
     
    BD, Oct 8, 2004
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  13. Ken Chandler

    BD Guest

    ah depends on definition of photographer...
    - One who practices, or is skilled in, photography
    Photography - An image, especially a positive print, recorded by a camera
    and reproduced on a photosensitive surface

    so does it take any skill to be a photographer.... or just the ability to
    press the appropriate button on the device.
    Therefore you could say
    all camera owners are photographers (but there may be some owners, that just
    keep their camera under lock and key and never have used a camer - poor
    fools)


    as for Technician.... it can be defined as
    One who is known for skill in an intellectual or artistic technique

    so skilled in an artistic technique... such as photography.

    And intellectual... You had better stop reading here Ryadia.
    don;t worry, it beat me too.. ;-)
     
    BD, Oct 8, 2004
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  14. Ken Chandler

    Ryadia Guest

    From another poster:
    --------------------------------------------
    Error 99, and battery grip contacts have nothing to do with the
    earlier lock-up issue. When it happens, it is often associated with
    dirty lens contacts, or battery (grip) connections.

    It is NOT the earlier lock-up that required temporary removal of the
    battery. Just switch the camera off, clean the contacts, and switch on
    again.

    I'm not saying that there are no issues, but this is not related to
    the 1.0.5 firmware fix.
    -----------------------------------------
    What is it with you, Chandler?
    ....Is it about getting aus.photo.chandler up and running? There'd be 2
    posters in it if it was.

    I posted the information I found after hours of searching only to have
    ****-wits like you start to ridicule me for it's value... How bloody
    childish. All it does is display your own limited knowledge of
    everything... Doesn't say much for your fan club's postings either.

    Using an eraser to clean the lens contacts is done on a daily basis by
    Technician's all over the world. The "dirty" contacts are usually
    tarnished from formaldehyde vapour - the glue used in manufacturing
    cupboards, particle board and draws where most people store their unused
    stuff.

    Of course that information can only be found if you bother to look for
    it. Seems to me that all you look for is an opportunity to ridicule
    people. Get a life will you?
     
    Ryadia, Oct 13, 2004
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  15. Ken Chandler

    Ryadia Guest


    Since when is repeating what a person said a last year defamatory?
    By claiming I am, you are.
     
    Ryadia, Oct 13, 2004
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  16. Ken Chandler

    BD Guest

    Bored are we, not much work about for you?
    Trawling through older posts and provoking others?
     
    BD, Oct 14, 2004
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  17. Ken Chandler

    Ryadia Guest

    No, not bored, just correcting a false Allegation you made. Somehow you
    and Ken Chandler are remarkably similar in your ability to make
    outrageous Allegations and keep silent when confronted for it. Trolls,
    both of you.
     
    Ryadia, Oct 14, 2004
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  18. Ken Chandler

    njs Guest

    Maybe trolls but not fuckwit like you........quoting 20D is crap and
    keep your 10D but in actual fact you sell and join the
    bandwagon....wanker just a wanker......
     
    njs, Oct 15, 2004
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