New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

Some truly great news for those of us who miss the superb saturation
and ultra fine grain of the unique Kodak Ektar 25 film ...

From the Vision Landscapes site:
http://tinyurl.com/6lk6tr
or
http://visionlandscapes.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!845DD01974D4626E!336.entry

"Not since the reintroduction of Velvia 50 a couple of years ago has a
major manufacturer shown such a commitment to film. This all changes
for Kodak with the introduction of the new Kodak Ektar 100 Color
Negative film. This film builds upon the discontinued Ektar 25, with
finer grain, increased resolution, in a faster speed. Ektar 100
incorporates Entertainment Imaging's KODAK VISION Film technology,
with a grain structure based upon Kodak's T-GRAIN® Emulsions
technology.

"Equally significant is that this film is only available in 35mm, a
format many consider dead (there are in fact, only 2 or 3 35mm SLR's
still in production), and aimed squarely at the professional
photographer. Attendees at the recent Photokina 2008 in Germany are
reporting that both Kodak and Fuji are reporting increased film sales
amongst professional photographers."

For more information visit:
http://tinyurl.com/64sqo9
or
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...tar/ektarIndex..jhtml?id=0.2.26.14.5.14&lc=en

 

"Bruce" <> wrote in message
news:...
Some truly great news for those of us who miss the superb saturation
and ultra fine grain of the unique Kodak Ektar 25 film ...

From the Vision Landscapes site:
http://tinyurl.com/6lk6tr
or
http://visionlandscapes.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!845DD01974D4626E!336.entry

"Not since the reintroduction of Velvia 50 a couple of years ago has a
major manufacturer shown such a commitment to film. This all changes
for Kodak with the introduction of the new Kodak Ektar 100 Color
Negative film. This film builds upon the discontinued Ektar 25, with
finer grain, increased resolution, in a faster speed. Ektar 100
incorporates Entertainment Imaging's KODAK VISION Film technology,
with a grain structure based upon Kodak's T-GRAIN® Emulsions
technology.

"Equally significant is that this film is only available in 35mm, a
format many consider dead (there are in fact, only 2 or 3 35mm SLR's
still in production), and aimed squarely at the professional
photographer. Attendees at the recent Photokina 2008 in Germany are
reporting that both Kodak and Fuji are reporting increased film sales
amongst professional photographers."

For more information visit:
http://tinyurl.com/64sqo9
or
http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...ktar/ektarIndex.jhtml?id=0.2.26.14.5.14&lc=en

I may have to drag my old Canon A2 out of storage. But, I'd probably just
have negs scanned to disk instead of getting prints.

Take Care,
Dudley

 

Bruce wrote,on my timestamp of 25/10/2008 10:41 AM:

> Some truly great news for those of us who miss the superb saturation
> and ultra fine grain of the unique Kodak Ektar 25 film ...


Welcome to last month's news.
It was announced at Photokina.
And as usual the "news" sites
all missed it...
Fortunately, in the sites that really
deal with film photography, it's already
been widely discussed. We're all very keen
on trying it, whenever it shows up.

 

In article <>,
"Ken Nadvornick" <> wrote:

> "Noons" wrote:
>
> > Welcome to last month's news.
> > It was announced at Photokina.
> > And as usual the "news" sites
> > all missed it...
> > Fortunately, in the sites that really
> > deal with film photography, it's already
> > been widely discussed. We're all very keen
> > on trying it, whenever it shows up.
>
> Seconded...
>
> For some reason, the participants at rec.photo.equipment.35mm failed to note
> the introduction of a brand new color negative 35mm film.
>
> Wonder why that is...?
>
> Ken

Some of don't shoot color?

HFL

 

Daniel Rocha <> wrote:

>Bruce a écrit :
>> Some truly great news for those of us who miss the superb saturation
>> and ultra fine grain of the unique Kodak Ektar 25 film ...
>(...)
>
>Great !
>
>The Ektar film is excellent !


The best there was ... and now the best there is!

 

"Ken Nadvornick" <> wrote:

>Perhaps I mis-searched in looking for "Ektar 100" in
>"rec.photo.equipment.35mm" only? There were, in fact, several earlier hits.
>But they were from pre-announcement dates. So my search criteria were
>presumably not at fault.
>
>OR... perhaps just about all of the 35mm film photographers who would have
>been expected to discuss this apparent major change in course by Kodak in
>their earlier drive to an all-digital business model had, like Elvis, left the
>building for greener - or at least less abusive - pastures...



Sadly, this 35mm newsgroup is no longer
a pleasant place to discuss 35mm film.

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

On Oct 24, 7:41 pm, Bruce <> wrote:
> Some truly great news for those of us who miss the superb saturation
> and ultra fine grain of the unique Kodak Ektar 25 film ...
>
> From the Vision Landscapes site:http://tinyurl.com/6lk6tr
> orhttp://visionlandscapes.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!845DD01974D4626E!336....
>
> "Not since the reintroduction of Velvia 50 a couple of years ago has a
> major manufacturer shown such a commitment to film. This all changes
> for Kodak with the introduction of the new Kodak Ektar 100 Color
> Negative film.  This film builds upon the discontinued Ektar 25, with
> finer grain, increased resolution, in a faster speed. Ektar 100
> incorporates Entertainment Imaging's KODAK VISION Film technology,
> with a grain structure based upon Kodak's T-GRAIN® Emulsions
> technology.
>
> "Equally significant is that this film is only available in 35mm, a
> format many consider dead (there are in fact, only 2 or 3 35mm SLR's
> still in production), and aimed squarely at the professional
> photographer. Attendees at the recent Photokina 2008 in Germany are
> reporting that both Kodak and Fuji are reporting increased film sales
> amongst professional photographers."
>
> For more information visit:http://tinyurl.com/64sqo9
> orhttp://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/ektar/ekta....

What a waste and step backwards. Since geting my first cheap digital I
found I could duplicate Ektar- Kodachrome, and save a fortune from bs
in wasted money, time, roll restrictions, lack of instant playback etc
etc that goes into film, that dead medium. A buthead move by Kodak.

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

In article <>,
Mxsmanic <> wrote:

> ransley writes:
>
> > What a waste and step backwards. Since geting my first cheap digital I
> > found I could duplicate Ektar- Kodachrome ...
>
> No, you cannot. You can simulate them, but you cannot duplicate them. There
> are insurmountable physical barriers to duplicating the results.

Glad to see you're still around, Mxsmanic.

HFL

 

"Ken Nadvornick" <> wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote:
>
>> Sadly, this 35mm newsgroup is no longer
>> a pleasant place to discuss 35mm film.
>
>Unpleasantly true, that...
>
>But the new film does sound very interesting. My wife will probably give it a
>go. She has steadfastly refused to trade her 35mm film camera for another
>technology. Says she doesn't like the "artificial look" of other
>technologies. Fortunately, her circle of friends who have traded don't
>verbally beat the snot out of her for that personal choice.
>
>Pleasantly true, that...


She's lucky. Some people who have converted to digital are like so
many religious converts - zealots for their new-found faith, who try
to impose it on everyone they can. :-(


>Me? For color I'm a lost cause since the early 70s for Kodachrome.
>Absolutely nothing else like it anywhere in the world. Thirty-six
>freshly-processed Kodachrome slides on a large 5000K lightbox is truly a
>wonder to behold. But it's definitely not cheap and most assuredly not
>convenient, so precious few these days have the tastes to partake of this
>exquisite delicacy.
>
>Pity, that...

I still use Kodachrome. But I don't find it expensive. I buy it in
bulk packs of 20, process paid.

I have to air mail it to Switzerland, from where it is shipped to the
USA and air mailed back to Europe, which takes a couple of weeks. The
slowness is the only disincentive to using Kodachrome - the slides are
still as wonderful as they always were.

However, there are enduring rumours that manufacture has ceased, and
that current stocks will be the last. I hope that isn't true.

 

On 10/27/2008 12:00 PM Alan Browne spake thus:

> Bruce wrote:
>
>> Sadly, this 35mm newsgroup is no longer
>> a pleasant place to discuss 35mm film.
>
> BS.
>
> This is a very pleasant place to discuss it. It just is not discussed
> often.

Interesting; a denial from one of the perpetrators.


--
Washing one's hands of the conflict between the powerful and the
powerless means to side with the powerful, not to be neutral.

- Paulo Freire

 

Alan Browne <> wrote:
>Bruce wrote:
>
>>
>> Sadly, this 35mm newsgroup is no longer
>> a pleasant place to discuss 35mm film.
>
>BS.
>
>This is a very pleasant place to discuss it.


A complete contradiction. First you demonstrate exactly why this
newsgroup is an unpleasant place for film users, then deny it.


>It just is not discussed often.


Thanks to your "clever" remark, the reason why not it is clear.

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

Does it really matter what medium a photographer shoots with? Isn't
the main objective simply the passion for PHOTOGRAPHY?
I've become disheartened by the way a lot of people have lost focus
and bitterly choose film or digital, and in so doing, wars are
created. They are both fantastic mediums where a photographer can
express him/herself.
Can we not just respect someone's choice of medium and celebrate the
joy and passion of photography?

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

Helen <> wrote:
>
>Does it really matter what medium a photographer shoots with? Isn't
>the main objective simply the passion for PHOTOGRAPHY?
>I've become disheartened by the way a lot of people have lost focus
>and bitterly choose film or digital, and in so doing, wars are
>created. They are both fantastic mediums where a photographer can
>express him/herself.
>Can we not just respect someone's choice of medium and celebrate the
>joy and passion of photography?


I'm pleased that you respect freedom of choice, Helen, but there are
many here who don't. That is unfortunately a strong disincentive to
post here about film.

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

Helen wrote,on my timestamp of 28/10/2008 11:07 PM:
> Does it really matter what medium a photographer shoots with? Isn't
> the main objective simply the passion for PHOTOGRAPHY?
> I've become disheartened by the way a lot of people have lost focus
> and bitterly choose film or digital, and in so doing, wars are
> created. They are both fantastic mediums where a photographer can
> express him/herself.
> Can we not just respect someone's choice of medium and celebrate the
> joy and passion of photography?

Can you explain that to your baby-boy-blue?
And why don't you follow your own advice?

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

Bruce wrote:
> Helen <> wrote:
>> Does it really matter what medium a photographer shoots with? Isn't
>> the main objective simply the passion for PHOTOGRAPHY?
>> I've become disheartened by the way a lot of people have lost focus
>> and bitterly choose film or digital, and in so doing, wars are
>> created. They are both fantastic mediums where a photographer can
>> express him/herself.
>> Can we not just respect someone's choice of medium and celebrate the
>> joy and passion of photography?
>
>
> I'm pleased that you respect freedom of choice, Helen, but there are
> many here who don't. That is unfortunately a strong disincentive to
> post here about film.
>

There are (or were) people here who have been called "luddites" by
someone who doesn't have the photographic and aesthetic skills of some
eight-year-olds I know.

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

Rol_Lei Nut <> wrote:
>Bruce wrote:
>> Helen <> wrote:
>>> Does it really matter what medium a photographer shoots with? Isn't
>>> the main objective simply the passion for PHOTOGRAPHY?
>>> I've become disheartened by the way a lot of people have lost focus
>>> and bitterly choose film or digital, and in so doing, wars are
>>> created. They are both fantastic mediums where a photographer can
>>> express him/herself.
>>> Can we not just respect someone's choice of medium and celebrate the
>>> joy and passion of photography?
>>
>>
>> I'm pleased that you respect freedom of choice, Helen, but there are
>> many here who don't. That is unfortunately a strong disincentive to
>> post here about film.
>>
>
>There are (or were) people here who have been called "luddites" by
>someone who doesn't have the photographic and aesthetic skills of some
>eight-year-olds I know.


That's tame, really. Some far less pleasant things have been said
here about film and film users.

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

"Bruce" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Rol_Lei Nut <> wrote:
>>Bruce wrote:
>>> Helen <> wrote:
>>>> Does it really matter what medium a photographer shoots with? Isn't
>>>> the main objective simply the passion for PHOTOGRAPHY?
>>>> I've become disheartened by the way a lot of people have lost focus
>>>> and bitterly choose film or digital, and in so doing, wars are
>>>> created. They are both fantastic mediums where a photographer can
>>>> express him/herself.
>>>> Can we not just respect someone's choice of medium and celebrate the
>>>> joy and passion of photography?
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm pleased that you respect freedom of choice, Helen, but there are
>>> many here who don't. That is unfortunately a strong disincentive to
>>> post here about film.
>>>
>>
>>There are (or were) people here who have been called "luddites" by
>>someone who doesn't have the photographic and aesthetic skills of some
>>eight-year-olds I know.
>
>
> That's tame, really. Some far less pleasant things have been said
> here about film and film users.
>
I shoot films and digitals. I belong to a photo club that alternates
between projected slides and printed images of any source. At the last
slide presentation, one of my submissions was a very pale yellow water lily
in a black tarred wooden barrel taken in direct sun. One of the comments
was how well controlled the highlights were because nothing was burned out
even though you could clearly see that it was taken in direct sun. My first
thought was, "well duh, it's a film shot."

Now that I have you're attention, learn how to use a killfile, because
frankly, the people who are the "biggest supporters of film" are the only
ones I see talking about how bad film is and how badly treated people who
shoot film are.

May your emulsions be smooth and your light meter accurate.
-Jim

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

jimkramer wrote:

> Now that I have you're attention, learn how to use a killfile, because
> frankly, the people who are the "biggest supporters of film" are the only
> ones I see talking about how bad film is and how badly treated people who
> shoot film are.
>

??!!??
Please clarify

Confusedly yours....

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

"Rol_Lei Nut" <> wrote in message
news:...
> jimkramer wrote:
>
>> Now that I have you're attention, learn how to use a killfile, because
>> frankly, the people who are the "biggest supporters of film" are the only
>> ones I see talking about how bad film is and how badly treated people who
>> shoot film are.
>>
>
> ??!!??
> Please clarify
>
> Confusedly yours....

From Ken
>For some reason, the participants at rec.photo.equipment.35mm failed to
>note
>the introduction of a brand new color negative 35mm film.
>
>Wonder why that is...?
>

>Which, of course, begs the primal question... WTF? Isn't anyone anywhere
>else
>paying attention to the mind-numbing film-is-dead bleatings from around
>here?

From Bruce
>Sadly, this 35mm newsgroup is no longer a pleasant place to discuss 35mm
>film.

>She's lucky. Some people who have converted to digital are like so
>many religious converts - zealots for their new-found faith, who try
>to impose it on everyone they can. :-(

Now if you ignore every "film is dead" o "why isn't anyone talking about
film" post from Scott W and Annika who else is bad mouthing film here?

I went to Photokb.com to see who else contributed to this thread
Noons went in to the KF after the "pedo" wars started
ransley went in to the KF long before that
Mxsmanic got canned during one of the Annika wars
David Nebenzahl got canned after the upteenth go post on a digital group

Who here is bad mouthing film?

There's almost nobody here left to bad mouth anything.

I suspect I will feel bad about this rant latter, but right now it feels
pretty good to unload.
-Jim

 

Re: New! Kodak Ektar 100 35mm negative film!

"jimkramer" <> wrote:
>
>There's almost nobody here left to bad mouth anything.


That's true.