NEW Kodak Ultra Color Film

Discussion in 'Kodak' started by me, Oct 14, 2004.

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    me Guest

    Has anyone tried the new Kodak Ultra Color film?
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/ultraColor/main.jhtml
    I just saw it yesterday in Target. It came in a package of three rolls for
    $9. The Kodak site says it's a professional film but the box called it a
    consumer film. I guess film is still very much alive. As a film devotee
    I'm always glad to see new products come on the market.
     
    me, Oct 14, 2004
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  2. When I ran across it at the Kodak Web site, I somehow got the
    impression that it was basically Portra UC relabeled. Look at
    <http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/colorNegativeIndex.jhtml?id=0.1.18.14.13&lc=en>
    to find out more.
     
    Stephen H. Westin, Oct 14, 2004
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    I got some 100UC recently, but I have not had a chance to test it yet.
    No shit!?!? . . . . . That really surprises me to hear of it being sold in Target.
    I will have to check my local Target next time I am there.
    Were they 24 exposure, or 36 exposure rolls?
    I thought it was only a professional product, though the Portra films do fine
    without refrigeration. If they are only 24 exposure, maybe those shorter rolls are
    being passed towards the consumer market. I have only seen it as 36 exposure, or
    120 roll film. Of course, it would be great if I could get 120 roll film at Target
    .. . . . . . ;-)
     
    Gordon Moat, Oct 14, 2004
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    me Guest

    The speeds for Portra VC and Ultra Color are different and there is no
    tungsten version of Ultra Color. They may have similar characteristics
    though. Specs for these two films are here:
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...DatabankColorNeg.jhtml?id=0.1.14.34.9.4&lc=en
     
    me, Oct 14, 2004
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    me Guest

    If I rember correctly they were 24exp rolls. I doubt you'll find any 36exp
    rolls of consumer films at retail outlets like Target.
    This is 135 film. 120 and 220 is available but not at Target.
     
    me, Oct 15, 2004
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    Rich Pos Guest

    I recently bought 10 rolls. Finished one test roll and liked the film.
    Reminds me a lot of Supra although the skin tones are much better with
    UC. I'll have a better idea of this film after a few more rolls.
    Color is saturated but not cartoonish and well balanced.
    Grain is minimal. BTW, I shot 100 speed.
    What really impressed me is how durable the negatives are. Thickest(?)
    film I've ever handled, seems to be very scratch resistant. Scans
    well, I used the Portra UC settings in vuescan and the scans turned
    out excellent although with a slight greenish color cast.

    3 bucks / roll is a steal. A ten pack at B&H is (IIRC) $45 US.

    RP©
     
    Rich Pos, Oct 15, 2004
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    Bummer. The $9.00 price is close to what I pay for two rolls of 36 exposure. I
    suppose that this is available at Target is at least a slight convenience,
    certainly better than mail order.
    I know . . . it was just wishful thinking on my part. I use mostly transparency
    films, though on some occasions negative films fit what I need to accomplish.
     
    Gordon Moat, Oct 15, 2004
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    me Guest

    OOPS! After visiting the Ultra Color web page about sizes I see that the
    135 film only comes in 36exp rolls. I guess my memory wasn't so good after
    all! Look here:
    http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...aColor/sizes.jhtml?id=0.1.18.14.13.16.8&lc=en
     
    me, Oct 15, 2004
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    Kiron Kid Guest

    Has anyone tried the new Kodak Ultra Color film?

    I do not like Kodak color negative films. However, a Kodak rep gave me a few
    rolls of the UC 100 & 400 speed films to try. I must admit that it is quite
    good. I was pleasantly surprised, and would use it again.

    R.B.
     
    Kiron Kid, Oct 15, 2004
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  10. I have heard the claim that it is a new name for what was previously called
    Royal Gold.
     
    Andrew Koenig, Oct 15, 2004
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    Gordon Moat Guest

    Cool! I am checking one local Target tomorrow. I have been wanting to do more cross process imagery, so getting
    some 400UC would be nice, especially at somewhat low cost.
     
    Gordon Moat, Oct 15, 2004
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  12. : me wrote:

    : > . . . . . . . . .
    : > > > It came in a package of three rolls for
    : > > > $9.
    : > >
    : > > Were they 24 exposure, or 36 exposure rolls?
    : >
    : > If I rember correctly they were 24exp rolls. I doubt you'll find any 36exp
    : > rolls of consumer films at retail outlets like Target.

    : Bummer. The $9.00 price is close to what I pay for two rolls of 36 exposure. I
    : suppose that this is available at Target is at least a slight convenience,
    : certainly better than mail order.

    I got a 3 pack of Kodak Ultra Color 400 from Wal-Mart for about $11, and
    they were 36 exposure rolls. I think the first poster's memory is playing
    tricks.

    The film is quite good; easily much better than Kodak's 400 speed consumer
    film.

    Warren B. Hapke
     
    Warren B. Hapke, Oct 15, 2004
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    Agreed for the most part. Are you sure there is a Portra UC setting
    in Vuescan? Must be new-- earlier versions have only NC and VC,
    so it was generally agreed that Royal Gold 400 or Royal Gold 100
    (more cyan) were the most appropriate settings.

    Portra 400UC has been around at least a year. It is the best
    400 speed print film on the market now, though it doesn't always
    interact well with Fuji paper or print channels.

    Kodak changed the name to Ultra Color 400 when they introduced
    Ultra Color 100. Ctein tested these films for the Sep/Oct 2004
    issue of Photo Techniques magazine.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Oct 15, 2004
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    Bill Tuthill Guest

    UC400 is fairly distant from Royal Gold, especially
    with regard to skin tones, which are much more pleasing
    with UC400 than with any RG film.

    Judging only by film characteristics, Ektapress PJ400
    and Royal Gold 400 were combined to make Supra 400,
    the professional equivalent of revised Royal Gold 400.
    For a short time, RG 400 was edge coded RC-3, but soon
    renamed High Definition 400. You can tell the difference
    between RC-2 and RC-3 because the latter has much better
    red-orange and magenta-purple accuracy.

    UC400 is significantly less grainy than RC-3 / HD 400
    for most colors, although grays are about the same.
    UC400 is lower contrast. Skin tones are especially
    fine grained in UC400, rivalling most 100 speed films.

    The Agfa D-Lab.2 produces excellent results with UC400,
    as would (probably) the Noritsu digital minilab.
     
    Bill Tuthill, Oct 15, 2004
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    me Guest

    Rumors abound on the internet don't they? I called Kodak at 800-242-2424
    and here is what they told me:
    Royal Gold has been repackaged/renamed High Definition. Only the 200 and
    400 speeds remain.
    Portra UC has been repackaged/renamed Ultra Color. Ultra Color speeds are
    100 and 400. The other flavors/speeds of Portra remain the same.
    I was told that the replacement of Royal Gold by High Definition happened 2
    years ago and was announced in a press release and trade publication for
    dealers. The replacement of Portra UC by Ultra Color was announced in
    February at the Photographic Marketing Association and began in April.
    Unfortunately I couldn't find links for these announcements so you'll just
    have to take my word for all of this or call Kodak yourself.
    B&H Photo is selling Ultra Color for $5. a roll or $25. for a package of 5
    rolls, 100 or 400 speed. I think it's about time I make a return trip to
    Target and buy some of this film!
     
    me, Oct 15, 2004
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  16. No, there apparently was a Portra UC (not VC) film for a while; I guess
    this is an attempt to market the same product differently.

    See
    <http://www.kodak.com/US/en/corp/pressReleases/pr20020715-01.shtml>
    for the original announcement of "Portra 400UC". And
    <http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...i668/ppi668.jhtml?id=0.1.14.34.9.16.62&lc=en>
    gives code letters "400UC" for this film, the same as "Ultra Color
    400". And
    <http://www.kodak.com/global/en/prof...r/qAndA.jhtml?id=0.1.18.14.25.14.16.10&lc=en>
    says "KODAK PROFESSIONAL ULTRA COLOR 400 Film is a direct replacement
    for KODAK PROFESSIONAL PORTRAÊ400UC Film in the U.S., Canada and
    Japan."

    I think my hunch was right, at least for the 400 version.
     
    Stephen H. Westin, Oct 15, 2004
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    me Guest

    If you haven't already then read what Kodak told me in my post at 10:55 AM
    today. It clears up all the confusion.
     
    me, Oct 15, 2004
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    rob Guest

    In message <> - "me" <[email protected]_.com>
    writes:
    :>
    :>Has anyone tried the new Kodak Ultra Color film?
    :>http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/ultraColor/main.jhtml
    :>I just saw it yesterday in Target. It came in a package of three rolls for
    :>$9. The Kodak site says it's a professional film but the box called it a
    :>consumer film. I guess film is still very much alive. As a film devotee
    :>I'm always glad to see new products come on the market.
    :>
    :>

    I've been using it and I'm very happy with it. The results seem to be the same
    as the "old" Supra films. The tech data sheets from Kodak are almost identical
    between Supra/Royal Supra/UC.

    I've noticed Kodak tend to call their 24 exp rolls "consumer films" while the
    same film sold as a 36exp is called "professional".

    Rob
    www.rcp.ca
     
    rob, Oct 15, 2004
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    rob Guest

    In message <> -
    westin* (Stephen H. Westin) writes:
    :>
    :>
    :>> Has anyone tried the new Kodak Ultra Color film?
    :>> http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/ultraColor/main.jhtml
    :>> I just saw it yesterday in Target. It came in a package of three rolls for
    :>> $9. The Kodak site says it's a professional film but the box called it a
    :>> consumer film. I guess film is still very much alive. As a film devotee
    :>> I'm always glad to see new products come on the market.
    :>
    :>When I ran across it at the Kodak Web site, I somehow got the
    :>impression that it was basically Portra UC relabeled. Look at
    :><http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/colorNegativeIndex.jhtml?id=0.1.18.14.13&lc=en>
    :>to find out more.
    :>
    :>--
    :>-Stephen H. Westin
    :>Any information or opinions in this message are mine: they do not
    :>represent the position of Cornell University or any of its sponsors.

    I got the same impression from the info. I tried Porta UC and didn't like the
    results, Kodak UC is more like their old Supra film (which I used a lot of).

    Rob
    www.rcp.ca
     
    rob, Oct 15, 2004
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    Rich Pos Guest

    You're correct about vuescan. It is a VC setting I used. Tried the
    Supra 100 setting as well with about same results. I'll try the Royal
    Gold option next time.
    Thanks for the info.

    BTW: Anybody know if Konica Impressa 50 has been discontinued?

    RP©
     
    Rich Pos, Oct 15, 2004
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