New law next week

Discussion in 'UK Photography' started by Woody, Feb 13, 2009.

  1. Woody

    Woody Guest

    Reported on PM tonight that a new law comes in on Monday (didn't catch
    its title) that makes it illegal to photograph a policeman - presumably
    in uniform?

    What next for heaven's sake??????
     
    Woody, Feb 13, 2009
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  2. Woody

    me Guest

    Have you got a link for this?
     
    me, Feb 13, 2009
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  3. Alan Clifford, Feb 14, 2009
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  4. Woody

    me Guest

    me, Feb 14, 2009
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  5. Woody

    Graculus Guest

    Not quite true, though it has the potential to be so.

    The law in question is clause 76 of the Counter Terrorism Act 2008:
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2008/ukpga_20080028_en_9#pt7-pb3-l1g76

    The dodgy bit is around "eliciting information about ... a constable ...
    which is of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing
    an act of terrorism". It has been surmised (especially considering the
    numerous cases of
    any-excuse-to-stop-people-taking-photos-so-I'll-use-the -terrorism-excuse by
    the police and PCSOs) that this could include taking photos of police
    officers. Not quite sure how you define a photo as being of a kind likely to
    be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism,
    especially if you consider the number of TV programmes following the police
    all of which clearly identify officers.

    Anyway, there's a protest outside Scotland Yard on Monday, should you want
    to add your voice:
    http://www.nuj.org.uk/innerPagenuj.html?docid=1104

    More at http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/02/12/pap_the_police/
     
    Graculus, Feb 14, 2009
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  6. Woody

    Chris H Guest

    Chris H, Feb 14, 2009
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  7. Woody

    Chris H Guest


    The new law makes it an offence to elicit or attempt to elicit
    information about an individual who is or has been a member of Her
    Majesty's forces,
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    a member of any of the intelligence services or a constable, "which is
    of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an
    act of terrorism, or publishes or communicates any such information.

    So any current *or former* members of HM Armed Forces should only give
    their Name, Rank and Serial number when the police pull the anti
    terrorist law on them :)
     
    Chris H, Feb 14, 2009
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  8. Woody

    MB Guest


    I wondered about getting as many people as possible to phone the Anti
    Terrorism Hotline whenever they see this law being breached, perhaps
    outside Buckingham Palace, Whitehall ......

    Anywhere that large numbers of potential terrorists are seen photographing
    members of the Armed Forces or police officers.

    Perhaps also leaflets could be handed out at these type of venue, warning
    foreign tourists that they are not permitted to take photographs of members
    of the Armed Forces and police officers.
     
    MB, Feb 14, 2009
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  9. Woody

    Bruce Guest


    It is also mentioned on the Amateur Photographer web site.

    I would encourage anyone who cares about the freedom to take photographs
    in public to be there in good time for the demo on Monday 16 February
    2009 starting at 11:00 AM:

    http://tinyurl.com/ao8x8q
    or:
    http://www.amateurphotographer.co.u...hers_to_join_protest_news_276706.html?aff=rss

    Nearest Tube station is St James's Park (District and Circle Lines).

    Bring your camera!
     
    Bruce, Feb 14, 2009
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  10. Woody

    Justin C Guest

    Probably not, a terrorist might be able to deduce, from the image, what
    a police car looks like and then target one.

    Justin.
     
    Justin C, Feb 14, 2009
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  11. Woody

    MB Guest


    What will happen when they start harassing photographers using Section 76,
    do they still have fill in a 5090X? (I hope I have all the numbers right!)

    Is the 5090X nationwide or just the Met Police?
     
    MB, Feb 16, 2009
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  12. Woody

    Chris H Guest

    It didn't make the news... strange that. I would have thought the
    journalists would have made sure it did.

    Ironically the lead story in the midlands was the Police breaking down
    the door of a flat. The wrong door and being filmed doing it by another
    tenant.. We may never have seen that film had they suggested "terrorism"
    The thing the security service fear the most is not the fundamentalist
    terrorists but a backlash from the white middle classes.
     
    Chris H, Feb 16, 2009
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    Marty Fremen Guest

    Marty Fremen, Feb 17, 2009
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