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Discussion in '35mm Cameras' started by mertle, May 11, 2005.

  1. mertle

    mertle Guest

    Hello everyone!

    I am just about to start a photography course at home and was wondering
    how long it would take/how much it would cost, to get everything I
    would need for a darkroom?
    I am new to all this and have already bought a pentax MZ60 to use. Is
    this a good camera to start with? thanks for any help! I live in

    mertle, May 11, 2005
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  2. Seems a good camera - all the appropriate modes, including manual, TTL
    flash, the ability to manually set the film, bulb etc...

    Duncan J Murray, May 11, 2005
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  3. The price of used darkroom equipment has collapsed. You should be able
    to get professional level stuff for almost nothing.
    The best source is probably online auctions, though some photo shops may
    have something albeit for more money.
    Chris Loffredo, May 11, 2005
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    Matt Clara Guest

    It's still many hundreds of dollars for the professional stuff, but you can
    get a bessler 23c for $100+, and the rest of the stuff you can pick up at
    your local megalomart.

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    Matt Clara, May 11, 2005
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    Mr. Mark Guest

    I am new to all this and have already bought a pentax MZ60 to use. Is
    Too late, you already bought it. <g>

    Welcome to the land of chocolate and the world of photography.
    You'll need development chemicals, trays, paper, an enlarger (probably the
    most exensive thing you'll buy), a film grain inspecter thingy, some
    graduated cylinders & measuring beakers, and a print holder for the enlarger
    if it's not build in.

    When I did this I went to my local photo supply store and said "Please help
    me, I have no idea what I need." They were more than happy to set me up
    with all the stuff I would need, explained the process to me, and cheerfully
    rang me up for around $600 US.

    I highly recommend this book - I have the 7th edition.


    Good luck!!
    Mr. Mark, May 11, 2005
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    Tony Guest

    Darkroom stuff is very cheap right now. My local camera store has 2 beseler
    23cs that they can't sell. But even though the equipment is cheap, the time
    and room they take are not. I seriously recommend an all digital workflow.
    You can use the computer you have and add a cheap printer along with a cheap
    image editor like Corel Photo-Paint, plus an inexpensive scanner - all for
    about 400 dollars in the US.
    A decent enlarger and lens is going to run at least 150, then there are
    the trays, chemical holding garbage etc etc etc. For what little money you
    save you are just inviting hassle.
    OTOH. If you know some one with a darkroom it would be well worth while
    to borrow or rent it and perhaps even take a few lessons in using it. This
    would be valuable experience, although no longer in any way necessary for
    knowing photography,
    Tony, May 11, 2005
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    TAFKAB Guest

    If you're talking about a black and white darkroom, then you can start
    cheap. A used Moega B22XL with a lens can be had for less than $100.
    Developing tanks are available for under $20. Paper developing trays can be
    had (8 x 10) for under$10. There are film and print washers available for
    under $50. And chemicals, well, no idea. Check the on-line stores for D76,
    Dektol, Stop Bath, and Fixer. But you have to ask if you really want a
    chemical darkroom...
    TAFKAB, May 11, 2005
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    TAFKAB Guest

    "Moega" Sheesh. Obviously, I meant "Omega."

    Damned chemicals must have caused dain bramage.
    TAFKAB, May 12, 2005
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    Bandicoot Guest

    Others have already answered this well.
    Yes. Not my favourite in the current Pentax line, but it has everything you
    need to start except Depth of Field Preview, which you will find you want
    after a while. It's a good place to start though, and lets you use the
    truly excellent Pentax lenses, of which you'll find plenty used at good
    prices. If you want to take photography further, you can buy something else
    later, and I certainly recommend Pentax for the quality of the lenses and
    the good ergonomics of their bodies. Pentax metering is very good too.

    Any of the AF lenses will work on the MZ60, but if you go for a manual lens
    it has to be an 'A' version or the '60 won't like it. These will be
    labelled "SMC Pentax A", and then whatever lens it is, around the front
    element, so are easy to identify - the thing the '60 needs is for them to
    have the 'A' position on the aperture ring.

    Bandicoot, May 12, 2005
  10. I've seen some professional MF or large format enlargers (Durst &
    Zeiss(!)) floor-mounted monsters going for about €100...
    The catch being you need to pick them up yourself (with a couple of
    helpers and a van).

    Normal good enlargers (at least in Europe) go for much less: I recently
    paid about €40 for a Meopta Magnifax 4 (good, solid enlarger up to 6x9 cm).
    "Normal" Componon and Rodagon enlarging lenses go for the price of a
    pizza+beer and even the Apo- versions don't always pass the €100 mark.

    It's a great time to set up a darkroom. The only drawback is, if you
    don't live near a big city, you might have to get paper & chemicals
    through the mail.
    Chris Loffredo, May 13, 2005
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