New monitor and screen colour settings now shot to hell

Discussion in 'Photoshop' started by Peter, Oct 17, 2007.

  1. Peter

    Peter Guest

    Having installed a new monitor (LCD) yes I know, not ideal! I have a problem
    with colour representation on screen.
    In PS I can manipulate an image to a perfect consistency, but when viewed in
    explorer prior to copying to disk it looks overly light and washed out.
    I can't currently print anything to check final colour as my printer is
    buggering about.
    Don't seem to have any success with colour management settings.
    Any advice other than taking up golf!
    Thanks.
     
    Peter, Oct 17, 2007
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  2. Peter

    Roy G Guest

    I would not advise taking up golf, it is much more frustrating than
    photography, (but everyone to their own perversions - frustrations -
    whatever).

    Your problem sounds very much like your images are tagged with the Adobe RGB
    Profile, which will display correctly in PS, because it can use Profiles.

    Most other Programs can't use them, and only display correctly if the images
    are tagged with the sRGB Profile, and show A. RGB images as washed out and
    dull.

    Try changing your PS > Edit > Colour Settings > Working Space to sRGB. Then
    open one of your images, if you get the Mismatched Profile Dialogue accept
    the conversion. Then Save As a Copy, and see how that copy looks in
    Explorer.

    If you don't get the Mismatch Dialogue go Edit > Convert to Profile and
    select sRGB. Then Save As a Copy and test that.

    Roy G
     
    Roy G, Oct 18, 2007
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  3. Peter

    Rob Guest


    1 Make sure you load up the screen drivers.

    2 In photoshop CS3 menu bar RHS there is a work space. Check which work
    space you are using.

    that should fix it,
     
    Rob, Oct 18, 2007
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    Joel Guest

    I am not an experted on ColorSpace so don't quote me on this, but I
    believe (or what I understand) that Web Browser is the only one doesn't do
    well with aRGB, or Web Browser is designed to know only sRGB.
    Here, I use aRGB (I don't care much about web displaying) for both web and
    PC I have no displaying issue on any PC. Yes, little difference between web
    and PC but not much (unless I have the monitor way off)
     
    Joel, Oct 18, 2007
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  5. Peter

    Peter Guest

    Thanks for all the good advice.
    Having had a good look in colour settings, I have found that if I turn
    colour management off I then get the same result in Explorer and PS.
    Is there any particular reason why I shouldn't leave management off?
    My work is mainly with technical shots for Boating magazines and non have
    complained about colour quality, but in recent issues I have noticed that
    the colour was less bright. Perhaps colour management has been acting
    against me since installing the new monitor, is that feasible?
    Peter
     
    Peter, Oct 18, 2007
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    Roy G Guest

    Hi.

    If you turn C.M. off in P.S. then you will get the same colours in P.S. and
    all other programs.

    Yes, it is very likely that incorrect settings in C.M. will produce
    incorrect colours. Turning it off, may well only be hiding errors from
    yourself.

    If you want the publishers to receive images with correct colours, then you
    really have to spend some time learning about C.M, and get your new Monitor
    Calibrated and Profiled, so that what you see on screen is also what your
    Publisher will see on their screen.

    Roy G
     
    Roy G, Oct 18, 2007
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    Mike Russell Guest

    Good question. The short answer is if it woks for you, go right ahead. The
    longer answer is that you may be flying blind, and although your luck has
    been good so far it may be better for you to take a little more control of
    what is happening, by manually adjusting your monitor to your own
    satisfaction.

    This can be as simple as bringing up some standard images, perhaps on a web
    page, once a week or so, and making sure that your monitor settings are
    consistent. The most important thing to look out for is loss of shadow and
    highlight detail. Second most important is the overall color of your
    monitor - whether it is too warm or cold. All of these can be adjusted,
    more or less satisfactorily, by eye. Adjustng your monitor this way can be
    educational, and is not really a problem for a one person operation.

    There are also situations, and yours may be one of them, where investing in
    a monitor calibration device is worthwhile.
    The overall saturation of colors can vary, depending on what the magazine
    expects. If you are sending them Adobe RGB files, and they are printing
    them as if they were sRGB, you'll see less bright colors when the image goes
    to press. So send them sRGB files, and use that as your working space as
    well. If you do covers, I guarantee you'll see a jump in quality if you
    bone up on color correction - Dan Margulis is good - and do your own CMYK
    separations.

    Although boating magazines can get by with so-so colors, I think you may
    see some benefit from calibrating your monitor. Although you can get by
    with a manual adjustment, figure on spending about 200 US dollars for a
    Spyder Pro or an Eye One display 2. The software for these devices is quite
    good, but count on spending a bit of learning effort.
     
    Mike Russell, Oct 18, 2007
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    Joel Guest

    If you google around then you should be able to get millions of hits
    because sRGB and aRGB has been talking over and over for so many years now.
    And like I said, for WEB displaying then sRGB is a good choice because web
    browser only support sRGB.
     
    Joel, Oct 19, 2007
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    Rob Guest

    For WEB display you should not have to rely on a calibration of an
    imbedded profile and hence you save for web without any profile.
     
    Rob, Oct 19, 2007
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  10. Peter

    Joel Guest

    I never use "Save To Web" but I guess it may save to sRGB colorspace, and
    if you want good color calibrated then just calibrate your monitor cuz web
    or non web both can benefit from good calibrated monitor.

    Or "Save To Web" may save to sRGB colorspace *but* it won't correct wrong
    color adjustment for you, and good color is what calibrated monitor can
    provide.
     
    Joel, Oct 20, 2007
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    Peter Guest

    Thanks for all the valuable advice.
    As a stopgap measure I reloaded the monitor defaults and that seems to be
    working pretty well for now.
    I think I had a case of 'a little knowledge being a dangerous thing' and
    dabbled with settings I wasn't too clear about.
    From all the advice I have received I think the biggest lesson learned is
    that I need to get back to basics and start learning some basic colour
    management theory.
    Thanks again everyone,
    Peter
     
    Peter, Oct 22, 2007
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