New Olympus 5060 Announced

Discussion in 'Olympus' started by Tink, Oct 4, 2003.

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    Tink Guest

    Does anyone here who understands camera jargon better than I have a nutshell
    comparison between the Olympus 5050 and the recently announced 5060?



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    Tink Guest

    Partially answering my own question here in case others are interested...

    The 5050 allows for the use of standard AA cells which would be great, and
    it also has a 1.8-2.8 aperture for better low light capability.

    Those two differences alone sway me towards the 5050 as opposed to the new
    release. The 5060 should be out next month, and maybe it will effect a price
    drop on the 5050. If I can wait that long :)


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    The 5050 zoom is 1.8 on the wide end, and 2.6 on the long end. The bright
    lens of the C5050 is one of the great features of it. The 5060 is 2.8 on the
    wide end, and something like 4.8 on the long end! That alone, is enough to
    make me think Olympus made a big mistake with this camera, unless they plan
    to sell it for less than the 5050.

    I have no idea why Olympus went to those damn proprietary batteries in the
    C5060... again, a big mistake!

    The good thing about the C5060 is the 27mm wide angle. That would be handy,
    but again... it isn't worth sacrificing the fast lens to get it. You can
    always get a wide-angle adapter for the C5050 if you need wide-angle ability
    (or use the panorama function as a last resort).

    The other benefit is supposedly a faster autofocus time. I'm not really sure
    if this is much of a benefit, since anyone who needs low lag time uses
    manual focus or pre-focus.

    Oh, there's the higher-res movie mode of the 5060. That could prove useful,
    but movies tend to be a gimmick most of the time and chew up card space real
    fast! (And with the slow lens of the 5060, you'd be stuck shooting movies
    outdoors only.)

    I guess we'll have to wait and see some test results. I wouldn't hold off
    buying the C5050, though, unless you really want the features the 5060 is
    offering (and don't care about the slow zoom lens or proprietary batteries).
    gr, Oct 4, 2003
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    Tink Guest

    I think I'm sold on the 5050. After years of dealing with proprietary,
    high-priced batteries, I love the flexibility of the 5050. And it comes with
    an IR remote, something I planned to buy anyway. And I like the feel of
    magnesium bodies. I think it will do the job for me.

    I, too, had to wonder specifically about the logic of the changes in the
    5060. From what I've gleaned from the web, the street price will be $799...
    Same as the 5050 when it came out. That makes me think the 5050 may see a
    nice price drop once the 5060 hits the streets in November.


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    gr Guest

    I doubt you'll see a big price drop in the C5050. Probably a small one, but
    that's just the usual price drop of electronics. It's going for around
    $575USD now. I'd expect it to be selling for about $525-$550 for Christmas.
    gr, Oct 4, 2003
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    Frank ess Guest

    I see Mr Nikon has reduced the price of the CP5700. Was that the shadow of a
    300D in the background?
    Frank ess, Oct 4, 2003
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    George Guest

    REALLY a big mistake on the batteries especially since Rayovac came out with
    those 15 minute NiMH rechargeable AA (2000mAh) batteries. I've been using
    them in my C4000, like them, and they are reasonably price (even the charger
    which has a "rebate" that doesn't get you any $$$ back but does get you a
    free cigarette lighter adapter for the charger). I paid about $30 for a
    four battery charger with two batteries and an additional $13 for four more
    batteries at a local discounter. You cannot believe how nice it is to be
    able to get fully recharged batteries in 15 minutes at home or in the car...
    George, Oct 4, 2003
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    Giorgis Guest

    Guys the way I see this camera is simple.
    Kind of like sideways development, you may not have interchangeable lenses
    but you can get from a range of similar cameras, depending on your needs.

    Considering the G3 -> G5
    Now the 5050 -> 5060 I believe if both stay on the market as a camera is a
    good thing.

    They are different cameras with most of the advantages common. If Olympus
    discontinues the 5050 that is a bad thing.

    It makes me think though that improving on these cameras gives you
    diminishing returns. Improving zoom on the 5050 without affecting the low
    light qualities would cost too much.

    Unless Olympus wants to make room for a higher end range.


    PS: I own a 5050 and I am wrapped, I love it. I just show photos to my film
    friend without knocking his machine. I keep saying vaguely Oh yea film is
    better in some things and digital in others. As far as 4x3 prints goes I
    can't think of any.
    Giorgis, Oct 4, 2003
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    Just curious - how is it possible to get a 2000 mAh battery recharged in
    15 minutes ? You'd need a current of 12 Ampere.
    Alfred Molon, Oct 4, 2003
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    The 5060 has indeed some interesting features, as you noted. But the
    major problem is that slow lens, F4.8 at the tele end, which makes it
    less suitable for low light photography.
    Alfred Molon, Oct 4, 2003
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    gr Guest

    It's looks like the same chip that's in the 5050. It's the same physical
    size and number of sensors, anyway.
    Sounds just like the 5050.
    I guess this could be useful for some. Personally, I find the tilt of the
    5050 enough for my use, which is for macro shots. For everything else, I
    never use the tilt feature.
    Again, that could be of use for some people. I seldom shoot in RAW, but that
    could be just because I'm too cheap to buy PS and the plugin.
    Hmmm... the 5050 claims 1/2000 shutter speed, but it's only available at
    f/8.0. Not very useful! I wonder if the 5060 will have a "usable" 1/4000
    shutter speed?
    I like the SM format of the 5050. It allowed me to use my old cards when I
    upgraded the camera. However, that's not really too important, so the 5060
    dropping SM isn't really a big deal.
    That is definitely the big advantage over the 5050. I'd really like the
    wide-angle setting. It's just not worth sacrificing the fast lens of the
    5050, IMO.
    Yeah, I don't really see much of an advantage in the slower shutter delay.
    Who cares if the autofocus delay is 0.4 seconds instead of 0.8 seconds? You
    still have to prefocus both cameras for an action shot.

    10? You mean 8. I've programmed all of mine for various uses. They are very
    handy, especially since I don't set my camera to remember settings in other
    modes when I power it off.
    gr, Oct 4, 2003
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    George Guest

    Interesting point (even though I get different numbers...2Ah/0.25 x 4
    batteries = 32 A)...and I don't think switching ps technology would do
    anything (like it does for audio power amplifiers) because the load would be
    rather continuous. The output of the AC wall adapter is 4.5A. Does anyone
    who is into battery technology know the answer?
    (But it does work nicely.)
    George, Oct 4, 2003
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    I was assuming a serial current of 12A (50% higher than the 8A required,
    as there are losses in the recharging process).
    Alfred Molon, Oct 4, 2003
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    Basiltoo Guest

    It would require 8A (or 12A as you suggest) if the charging voltage were
    around 1.5V and the heat generated would be horrendous. The same amount of
    energy could be transferred at a higher voltage and lower currrent. I
    would have thought that the maximum charging current could not be more than
    about 2A. How this is achieved is open to speculation.
    Basiltoo, Oct 5, 2003
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    Frank H Guest

    I wonder if they made changes to the silly lens cap?
    The extension tube I use on my 5050 is great and protects the vitals,
    but perhaps they found a new way for the 5060?

    Cheers, Frank
    Frank H, Oct 23, 2003
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