New Panasonic Lumix ZS-Series TV Commercial

Discussion in 'Digital SLR' started by LOL!, Mar 19, 2010.

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    LOL! Guest

    Saw a commercial on TV last night that floored me.

    A guy sitting on the ground up on a mountain pass is fumbling with his huge
    backpack of camera gear, his DSLR, tripod, and lenses trying to get it all
    ready in time to capture the image of a large bird of prey. (Which looks
    like the light phase of a Red-Tailed Hawk but it's not, probably an Asian
    or European species.) A couple of hikers walk by the "pro" photographer
    sitting on the ground fumbling with his heavy and cumbersome crap. While
    walking along the female hiker points out the bird to her hiking partner
    and he uses his P&S camera to quickly capture a close-up shot of the bird
    and then HD-video of it as it flies off, while they continue walking along
    without missing a beat. The poor DSLR fool was still sitting on the ground
    fumbling with trying to change his lenses and missed getting any shots at
    all. The chance to get even one photo now long gone.


    I'll have to find a link to that somewhere on the net. A day or two and
    it'll probably be on youtube somewhere. It perfectly sums up just some of
    the things that I've been telling you idiot DSLR-Trolls all winter. DSLRs
    are NOT the right choice for wildlife photographers. I found that out when
    I ditched trying to use DSLRs and instead perfected the skills needed to
    use super-zoom P&S cameras. That single-lens design now affording far
    greater opportunities of capturing wildlife shots under all the same
    conditions, with image qualities just as good if not often better than
    DSLRs. I used SLRs all my life and then tried DSLRs for wildlife
    photography during my move to digital cameras. I ditched them all when I
    found much more capable super-zoom P&S cameras for the same task and taught
    myself new methods in learning how to use them properly. I'm starting to
    understand all your problems now. You can't learn how to use ANY cameras
    properly, or you'd know better.

    That commercial was GREAT!

    LOL!, Mar 19, 2010
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    Bowser Guest

    Panasonic targeted that commercial to people incapable of learning to use a
    DSLR, and you are the perfect victim. Anyway, please post your birding shots
    or any BIF shots you've taken with your PoS camera. I'd love to see them.
    Bowser, Mar 19, 2010
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    Bruce Guest

    Exactly so.

    And could this be the same Panasonic company that actively markets
    Micro Four Thirds cameras and interchangeable lenses as an *upgrade*
    from point and shoot digicams? Of course it could!
    Bruce, Mar 19, 2010
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    SMS Guest

    Bruce wrote:

    Panasonic is in a desperate situation. Sales P&S cameras have leveled
    off and all the growth is in D-SLRs because consumers have become more
    aware of the advantages of D-SLRs. Panasonic has no D-SLRs. So all
    Panasonic can do is to create commercials that try to mislead consumers.
    Very sad. Looks like they found one victim in our favorite troll.

    Wildlife photography is especially poorly suited to P&S cameras, unless
    you can convince the wildlife to come _really_ close to you! However IS,
    on both P&S cameras and D-SLR lenses (though not so much IS on D-SLR
    bodies) has made it more practical to leave the tripod home. If you ever
    go to places like Denali or Yellowstone, where you need a very long zoom
    lens for good wildlife shots, it's at least possible to get them
    without a tripod, though of course a tripod is less expensive than IS.

    The pro wildlife photographers I've seen are very fast. The equipment is
    all set up on the tripod, and they carry the whole set-up with them and
    there is no fumbling.

    Looks like our favorite troll created another situation that doesn't
    exist, with a solution that is sub-standard.
    SMS, Mar 19, 2010
  5. The more we reply to him, the more we talk of him, the longer he'll
    stick around here. Such reasoning is completely lost on the Rays of this
    group, but I know some of you are able to restrain those itchy fingers.

    This man is extremely unhappy to the extent that his anger and
    powerlessness drive him to a high level of pestilence in this group.
    He's not even able to express why he's so pissed off, probably due to
    denial. Whatever.

    May we have some compassion for the rest of the group by not replying,
    and some compassion for him that his anger be quelled.
    John McWilliams, Mar 19, 2010
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    SMS Guest

    I've had him kill-filed for ages, but unfortunately the follow-ups are
    not kill-filed.
    SMS, Mar 19, 2010
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    Ray Fischer Guest

    Which drugs were you on, asshole troll?
    Ray Fischer, Mar 19, 2010
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    Dave Cohen Guest

    I haven't seen the commercial in question. From what has been posted the
    implication is that 'in general', a wide zoom range P&S might be more
    convenient for unplanned shots. Nobody is making claims for the quality
    of the final outcome and I would think in general the claim is valid.
    That people treat equipment choice with the same zeal as their religion
    is a separate issue.
    Dave Cohen, Mar 19, 2010
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    LOL! Guest

    Why? So you can all again yell, "They're STOLEN!", "The EXIF info was
    edited!", or "They were shot with a DSLR!" I've already posted about 8 of
    them during the year and that's exactly what happened, each and every time.

    Really, you DSLR-TROLLS are so fucking tiring, predictable, stupid, and

    LOL!, Mar 19, 2010
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    LOL! Guest

    These "wildlife photographers" you've seen, are they anything like the
    computer controlled geyser that you helped to install in Yellowstone
    National Park?


    LOL!, Mar 19, 2010
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    SMS Guest

    On 19/03/10 6:19 PM, Bowser wrote:

    If people bought cameras based on features then Panasonic would be one
    of the top selling brands rather than a niche brand.

    Unfortunately for Panasonic, they've never figured out the image-quality
    part of equation.
    SMS, Mar 20, 2010
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    Bob Williams Guest

    Maybe they have!
    I suspect that the great unwashed masses of digital camera users, (which
    is the largest segment of the market)are quite happy with "Good Enough"
    image quality. They are nowhere near as picky about image quality as the
    "serious" photographers in this NG. Consequently, DSLRs are way overkill
    as far as they are concerned.
    For them, convenience and price trump incremental improvement in image
    quality (cost/benefit ratio) every time.
    If we are totally honest with ourselves, almost all of us actually
    settle for "Good Enough" image quality too. Otherwise we would all own
    Nikon D3 or Canon 5D Mk2 cameras.
    At some point we all must say, "The image quality from my camera is Good
    Enough for my purposes".
    There are lots and lots of parameters to consider in choosing a digital
    camera (or anything else for that matter). How heavily we weigh image
    quality vs the other parameters in making our choice, is very personal.
    I feel confident that Panny and all the other manufacturers have their
    own marketing algorithms to try to maximize their sales, profits,
    reputation, etc.
    Bob Williams
    Bob Williams, Mar 20, 2010
  13. Robert Spanjaard, Mar 21, 2010
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    LOL! Guest

    LOL!, Mar 21, 2010
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    LOL! Guest

    Wow! Look how fast they're moving! How'd you ever get your crap gear set up
    in time so fast?! LOL!

    Your birds are blurred too from that much sought-after shallow DOF that you
    all go on and on about. LOL!!!!!

    Sheesh, the dynamic range on that sensor royally sucks, don't it. Never
    seen anything that bad from any DSLR before. Good examples to show others,
    of what NOT to buy.

    LOL!, Mar 21, 2010
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    Peter Guest

    Peter, Mar 21, 2010
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    ROFLMAO! Guest

    You snapshooter DSLR-Trolls *ARE* joking, right? This is what you shoot
    with your DSLRs?!?

    Here's what a quick & ready P&S camera can do ......

    Really, you fuckin' retard snapshooters without a prayer or a clue, give it
    a rest already. I'll beat you at the camera and pro-photographer game at
    every turn. 100% guaranteed!

    ROFLMAO!, Mar 21, 2010
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    LOL! Guest

    Beat your meat!

    I NEVER do what a useless pretend-photographer role-playing troll demands.

    LOL!, Mar 21, 2010
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    SMS Guest

    Another super-zoom P&S that looks great on paper but falls short in
    terms of image quality. A lens that's a big compromise with a sensor
    that's far too small for the number of pixels. Still, it's probably the
    best of the super-zooms.

    The SP-800 looks to be a disaster. Too many pixels for the sensor, no
    EVF, and a stupid long lens.
    SMS, Mar 21, 2010
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    LOL! Guest

    LOL!!!!!!!! Oh wise pretend-photographer fool, now you have to explain to
    everyone why that might be so!

    But YOU CAN'T!

    Because IT'S A FUCKING LIE!

    LOL!, Mar 21, 2010
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