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  1. shareha

    shareha Guest

    New Paper technology in our world :

    If you are a interest Recent paper technology see & get more

    shareha, Jan 27, 2008
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  2. Ha; "paper technology" my ass.
    David Nebenzahl, Jan 27, 2008
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  3. As the volume of traffic on this and some other photo
    groups has declined the amount of spam and junk has
    increased. I think spammers like relatively empty groups or
    else its just that the readers don't bother to report spam.
    Richard Knoppow, Jan 28, 2008
  4. I do not know. I think it is difficult to determine cause and effect. I
    could state that as the amount of spam and junk has increased, the postings
    of those who used to contribute has decreased. I know comp.os.linux.misc has
    gotten so bad that I could no longer filter out all the bot-generated spam,
    so I have just about quit reading there.

    Here, I have gotten tired of the same old stuff posted over and over. This
    is not quite a complaint because new people have the same questions year
    after year, and I lament the passing of dejanews. Google does not really
    take its place.

    And spam in e-mails is getting worse. In the mid 1990s the spam level of
    e-mail was probably less than 50%, but now it seems to be between 90% and
    95%. Soon the Internet will become useless. It is a pity.
    Jean-David Beyer, Jan 28, 2008
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    ____ Guest

    If no one reads then no one reports. If one uses a browser and accesses
    via Google one almost only sees spam. Using Newswatcher I see relatively
    no spam.....and can delete it or kill the post immediately.
    ____, Jan 28, 2008
  6. shareha

    ____ Guest

    I get relatively no spam in email I can not trace to someone I've given
    my address. I never respond to garbage. I also have a www. site and have
    limited direct email to me in several ways. One: I made all the email
    boxes for my site have an address to I use two addresses, all incoming
    email from the site gets filtered and has to come from a detailed
    response form. I am relatively happy :)
    ____, Jan 28, 2008
  7. Well, like they say, it all depends.

    Here at home, I get ZERO spam. None. Never. (Well, once in a great
    while, like say every couple months, I get one spam message.)

    At work, not only do we get tons of spam on our main account ([email protected]),
    but the got-damn motherfucking spammers are now using OUR account as a
    source address for their spam! In other words, not only do we get spam,
    but we get spam that originates (seemingly) from OUR OWN EMAIL ADDRESS,
    as well as "bounce" messages from spam that didn't hit its target.
    Meaning that folks out there are getting pissed off at *us*, since it
    appears that we are spammers, when in fact we are their victim.

    I agree with Jean-David: email will soon become useless as a
    communication medium. And you know what? I look forward to that day!
    Bring it on!
    David Nebenzahl, Jan 28, 2008
  8. Earthlink has a pretty effective spam filtering system
    so I don't get much spam on my personal account. I am an
    officer of a union and get spam there. That system has a
    spam filter also but evidently my union account got onto a
    spam list somehow. Since I rarely use it I am puzzled as to
    how it got out. I think no e-mail account is completely
    Richard Knoppow, Jan 28, 2008
  9. There's only one logical explanation I can think of: spammers are
    getting their addresses directly from ISPs (or indirectly). It must be
    an inside job; someone who works at Yahoo!, say, is selling names of
    accounts. I'm pretty sure this must be true, as I get spam no matter how
    long and unusual the user ID of the account is.

    So I guess my home ISP hasn't been infiltrated by spam-scammers--yet.
    David Nebenzahl, Jan 28, 2008
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    ____ Guest

    Are these PC systems by chance. Where I work PT on PCees we get some
    spam/ they decided to filter the incoming mail through and online
    spam trap it work well to take the most ignorant stuff away. I think as
    filters get better eventually you'll at least see less. I seriously
    doubt email will go by the wayside because a few idiots.
    ____, Jan 28, 2008
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    ____ Guest

    ____, Jan 28, 2008
  12. A lot of mine seems to be from trojans that invade mailboxes of friends and
    capture their address books. They then send me e-mail allegedly from my
    friends, but they never sent them.

    The next batch is where the spammer has a million monkeys typing e-mail
    addresses for their clients who then want me to send my eBay account
    information (there is none, since I avoid eBay), my Bank of America account,
    and such. My ISP's spam filter weeds out most of the Viagra and Vicodin
    type adds. I still get the Nigerian hoaxes.

    I am going back to the telephone and snail mail for important communications.
    Jean-David Beyer, Jan 29, 2008
  13. I used to say that day was about 5 years off. But in the three years or so
    that have passed, I think it is now about 2 years off.
    Jean-David Beyer, Jan 29, 2008
  14. Really has nothing to do with the whole PC-vs-Mac thing (like those
    *stupid* Apple commercials). We have one of each, and they both catch
    about the same junk messages ("mail" on the iMac, Thunderbird on the
    PC). The accounts are all through Yahoo! small business, by the way, so
    there's no real problem with spam causing excess server load, as someone
    mentioned upthread.

    So our email clients do filter the junk pretty effectively, but it
    doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference: because the filters aren't
    100% effective, that means you *still* have to look through the junk
    folder every day to make sure that something you want didn't end up in
    there (and then delete all that crap). And it doesn't have anything at
    all to do with the victim-as-spammer scheme I mentioned, whereby other
    spam victims get pissed off at you.
    David Nebenzahl, Jan 29, 2008
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    Rob Morley Guest

    All you have to do is send an email from that account to any compromised
    computer and the address will end up on a spammer's list. Home users
    are generally clueless about computer security, and many small
    businesses aren't any better, while big business systems are attractive
    to serious data thieves. But to keep things in perspective, I've never
    been paranoid about protecting my email addresses and I'm not
    overwhelmed by spam. As for spam in the newsgroups, I hardly see any
    because my NSP has good filtering.
    Rob Morley, Jan 29, 2008
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    ____ Guest

    Oh I don't know, it seems like our work PC's are a lot more prone to
    auto opening exe. files and any other contrived contraptions.
    ____, Jan 29, 2008
  17. Well, there are two well-known causes, both correctable:

    1. Using Internet Exploiter and Outhouse Express, both of which are
    applications walking around with "infect me" signs on their backs.
    (Solution: use Mozilla or other free software instead.)

    2. People who click on things they shouldn't. Fixable, but with much
    more difficulty.
    David Nebenzahl, Jan 30, 2008
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    ____ Guest

    Well, there are two well-known causes, both correctable:

    1. Using Internet Exploiter and Outhouse Express, both of which are
    applications walking around with "infect me" signs on their backs.
    (Solution: use Mozilla or other free software instead.)

    2. People who click on things they shouldn't. Fixable, but with much
    more difficulty.[/QUOTE]

    I agree, and use Mozilla and Firefox on Mac. Where I work PT they have
    both the other two programs- which both suck.
    ____, Jan 30, 2008
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    Rob Morley Guest>, ____
    Your network/system administrator isn't doing his job properly.
    Rob Morley, Jan 30, 2008
  20. He should get down on his knees hand thank [insert name of deity here]
    that he doesn't work in a place that uses GoldMine for everything!
    David Nebenzahl, Jan 30, 2008
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