New Sony A350 pics

Discussion in 'Sony' started by Focus, May 20, 2008.

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    Focus Guest

    Focus, May 20, 2008
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    Alan Browne Guest

    I like the compositions shooting through the rope/chain ports (forgive
    me if I don't know that nautical terms), esp. the first of the three.

    The second one has that great ring of warm light on its edges that is
    very strong, unfortunately the far side subject is too weak.

    The third one, I think you were trying too hard with the statue and the
    whichmahoozitz for the rope.
     
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    Don Guest

    Don, May 21, 2008
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    Focus Guest

    Focus, May 21, 2008
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    Dica Guest

    Dica, May 21, 2008
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    Dica, May 21, 2008
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    Allen Guest

    Ho hum. Another idiot who believes that measurements are more important
    than taste. I opened a scan of Rembrandt's "The Night Watch" (a very
    accurate scan) into Paint Shop Pro and looked at its histogram. Too
    dark! Rembrandt should have trashed it, according to these know
    nothings. I'm sure, though, that it will continue to be on display and
    reproduced quite often, as will most of Rembrandt's oils, in spite of
    the fact that most would also fail the histogram test.
    Allen
     
    Allen, May 21, 2008
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    user Guest


    They are too dark for screen view. They would be fine, properly printed
    on glossy paper and viewed in sunlight.

    Doug McDonald
     
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    ransley Guest

    Only an incompetant would trust a histogram over his eyes, good
    photos.
     
    ransley, May 21, 2008
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    ransley Guest

    not my screen, not adjusting anything they are fine
     
    ransley, May 21, 2008
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    Nonsense. I downloaded via screengrab three random images and checked
    their histograms. These images are not too dark - the entire range from
    0 to 255 is covered.
     
    Alfred Molon, May 21, 2008
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    Focus Guest

    ROFLOL!
    Thanks Allen. I was hoping to be rid of this stalker, but I still see
    reactions to him :-(
    I think he's green and yellow with envy, because he just can't stop
    criticizing.
    If the horizon is straight, the composition is good, then he'll find
    something else.
    Just think a minute about his obsession: he has to find and steal a picture
    of me, then load it into a program to see the histogram !
    I bet the last picture (the night beach) really sucks as far as the
    histogram goes, LOL!

    I got a Spyder2 calibration set and finally I got the colors spot on.
    If I print a picture on my (also new) Epson DX4400, the colors are exactly
    as they are on the screen.

    Still, on my (now calibrated ;-) LCD screen, the colors look exactly as I
    want them. But they are not too dark. If anyone has a problem with them,
    it's possible they need calibration too.
    Not trying to be a smart ass, but it really helped me a lot. I tried many of
    those on-screen-do-it-with-your-eyes-things, but they just don't work.

    Now I'm waiting for some sun! Blast! It's terrible. More global warming
    please: I'm freezing in Portugal ;-|)
     
    Focus, May 21, 2008
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    Focus Guest

    See my comments above.

    You might need some calibration too...
     
    Focus, May 21, 2008
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    user Guest

    You may like them that way, but for mormal on-screen use ... on normal screens ...
    they are too dark. AS I said before ... they would be right for a print to be
    viewed in very very bright light. They would be spectacularly good. But not
    on a ordinary normallly set PC screen. I might suggest running all of them through
    Photoshop as a batch so they look right on an ordinary out of the box PC screen,
    NOT calibrated to look like your printer.

    I have to keep two sets of files of all my images: one that looks right on
    the screen calibrated for print, and one that looks best on an ordinary
    uncalibrated PC screen, out of the box, for ones I give to friends.

    Doug McDonald
     
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    user Guest

    That's the point! The EXACT point!! When you post pictures to the
    web for people to see, you must expect that they will display them with
    sRGB profile ... no matter what the imbedded profile ... on a screen
    at some outrageously high color temperature, somewhere in the 6000-9000K range,
    and with the gamma that an ordinary PC/screen combo gives, out of the box.

    That is, if you want them to look right! What YOUR screen is calibrated to
    is SIMPLY IMMATERIAL.

    Now if you have done that, then I guess that that you like them dark
    on the screen. As I already said, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the
    files as-is, viewed on an out-of-the-box PC screen, IF you the prints to
    be viewed at a high light level.

    Doug McDonald
     
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    Focus Guest

    You are wrong!
    The pictures are just fine. I also checked them on my daughters PC,
    uncalibrated, and they look just great!

    So, since nobody else seems to have the same problem, the conclusion is,
    that your screen is off by a mile or so...
     
    Focus, May 21, 2008
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  18. OK, I have a calibrated system and I've been using such systems for
    almost 20 years now starting with Radius and Barco. The latest
    calibration has been via ColorMunki, and it's a surprisingly good
    profile (better than the Spyder 2 Pro which takes anout ten times as
    long to create).

    The images are correct for midtone slope and highlight levels, but many
    do suffer from strong black crushing and clipping. This is a matter of
    taste. It does look better in prints (same way that a Grade 4 black
    always beat a Grade 2 black) and it adds to impact on screen, but it is
    solid in some pix (the college? girls in black gowns, some trees with
    shaded trunks etc). Some people don't like to view screen images where
    they can not see detail in the blacks, and would think them too dark.

    So everyone is right - Focus is right, because that's how he wants them
    to look, and no amount of screen adjustment will ever reveal more
    detail. Personally I like the result in all the pix except the tree trunks.

    David

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    David Kilpatrick, May 22, 2008
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  19. There is nothing wrong with my screens. You just like dark pictures.

    Doug McDonald
     
    Doug McDonald, May 22, 2008
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    Alfred Molon Guest

    Please specify which images have this problem. BTW, the images Kulvinder
    posted some time ago have this problem.
     
    Alfred Molon, May 22, 2008
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