newbie question: old Nikon lenses work on Nikon D70?

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by Buck Frobisher, Oct 7, 2004.

  1. I have an old Nikkormat FTn and as well as the regular 50mm lens, years ago
    I bought a 105mm and a 28mm.

    Will these work on the new Nikon D70?

    I sent email to Nikon, never got an answer.

    thanks!

    --
    "Stay strong. Be brave. Wait for the signs."

    Regards,

    Frank Johansen
    Aurora, Ontario
     
    Buck Frobisher, Oct 7, 2004
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    Rob Novak Guest

    Straight from:
    http://www.nikonusa.com/template.php?cat=1&grp=2&productNr=25214

    "Compatible Lenses: DX Nikkor: All functions supported; Type G- or
    D-AF Nikkor: All functions supported; Micro Nikkor 85mm F2.8D: All
    functions supported except some exposure modes; Other AF Nikkor
    (excluding lenses for F3AF): All functions supported except 3D Color
    Matrix Metering, i-TTL balanced Fill-Flash for digital SLR; AI-P
    Nikkor: All functions supported except 3D Color Matrix Metering, i-TTL
    balanced Fill-Flash for digital SLR and autofocus; Non-CPU: Can be
    used in exposure mode M, but exposure meter does not function;
    electronic range finder can be used if maximum aperture is f/5.6 or
    faster. IX Nikkor Lenses: cannot be used."
     
    Rob Novak, Oct 7, 2004
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    Ivan Guest

    "Compatible Lenses: DX Nikkor: All functions supported; Type G- or
    What exactly is "3D Color matrix Metering"? Is the Camera actually metering
    the temperature of the color for balance?
     
    Ivan, Oct 7, 2004
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    Rob Novak Guest

    It's more like the Zone System for the 21st century. Each metering
    element assigns a luminance value based on the intensity of the light
    as well as its color. The results are passed through an algorithm
    that's supposed to ensure that color subjects are rendered with a
    proper exposure value.
     
    Rob Novak, Oct 8, 2004
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    Ivan Guest

    "Rob Novak" answered:
    Does this calculated rendering in camera minimalize the need to adjust the
    histograms
    later on in PhotoShop?
    Ivan
     
    Ivan, Oct 8, 2004
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  6. Buck Frobisher

    Rob Novak Guest

    No idea - I shoot an F4 with an old FA for manual backup. My only
    digital camera is a Coolpix 5000.
     
    Rob Novak, Oct 8, 2004
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  7. Thanks for looking that up, Rob. After I posted it , I found a very general
    claim on their website that the ones I have should fit.

    So, I went to a local camera specialist shop, and tried them on a D70. The
    105mm 2.5 (my fav lens) worked fine, but I was surprised that my 24mm 2.8
    would not!. Well, it did, sorta but...

    Where the 105mm went right on after I figured out where it went (no pin on
    camera to match the receiver on the lens' aperture ring), the 35mm was
    strangely difficult and tight. The salesperson put it on finally, and we
    noticed that the focus adjuster was moving too stiffly.

    Took both lenses, and connection end up, you immediately notice that there
    is an extra flange going only part way around the outermost ring on the
    lens. I'm talking about the ring that would penetrate deepest into the
    camera, not sure of its name.

    Disappointing experience. Not to mention the fear I had that somehow the
    24mm could have been damaged, but it seems fine. Is my 24mm somewhere on
    your list? The only other print on the face says "NIKKOR -N.C Auto 1:2.8
    f=24mm 423330"

    The salesperson pointed out that the lens that zoom that comes with the
    camera covers a wider range than my two old lenses anyway. How do you think
    that the quality of the new lens compares to my 105mm and 24mm? Any
    thoughts?

    I'm actually wondering if I can get as good a quality for portraits with the
    new lens, why bother at all with the old ones? I lose all the auto
    features, a considerable point for me.

    --
    "Experience: what you get when you don't get what you want."

    regards,

    Frank Johansen
    Aurora, Ontario
     
    Buck Frobisher, Oct 9, 2004
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  8. OK, I found the answer at http://www.aiconversions.com/d70etc.htm:
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
    Pre-AI Nikon lenses (ones made before 1978) need my Type B conversion ($35
    each) in order to be used on the D70 and D100 in the manner described above.
    See the Prices and Shipping page for details.

    Unconverted lenses should not be mounted on these bodies because of the
    interference between the aperture ring and the minimum aperture sensing
    switch (at about the 8 o'clock position outside the lens mount as you face
    into the mirror box). This warning also applies to lenses I converted to AI
    in the past. Any of those lenses can be brought up to the Type B standard
    for $10.
    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

    And so, the mystery is solved, AND I now know why the 24mm was tight! I
    bought all this stuff in either 1970, or '71 so that would seem to make them
    "pre-AI".

    He also mentions that with his modification to let it fit, I lose TTL
    metering. So, forget it, why go back to the stone age?


    --
    "Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs."

    regards,

    Frank Johansen
    Aurora, Ontario
     
    Buck Frobisher, Oct 9, 2004
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  9. I don' t have any personal experience with the AF-S Zoom-Nikkor ED
    18-70mm f/3.5-4.5G IF DX that comes with the D70, but here is a review
    at http://www.bythom.com/1870lens.htm .

    Mike
     
    Michael Dryden, Oct 11, 2004
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  10. Thanks, Mike. Seems like the reviewer felt overall that it's not the best,
    but a very good value.

    regards,

    Frank Johansen
    Aurora, Ontario
     
    Buck Frobisher, Oct 11, 2004
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    C. Falise Guest

    i am also considering a nikon dslr.
    i have an fm2 that i've used for nearly 20 years. i also have old nikon
    lenses that i would like to be able to use.
    i was going to do the same thing - go to a camera shop a play around with
    it.
    at this point i am debating between the nikon 8mp that has no
    interchangeable lens but costs around $7-800 or the d-70 which costs alot
    more but may be able to use my old lenses. most of them are not auto-
    focus, except i have a 70-210 af zoom.
    what was you general impression of the ability to use the old lenses?
    maybe i should just go for the larger 8mp over the 6mp d70?
    any input would be appreciated.
    thanks.
    -christina
     
    C. Falise, Oct 14, 2004
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  12. You *may* be able to use your old non-AF lenses; check the Niikon website.
    Remember that your 70-210 telephoto lens becomes equivalent to 105-315 due
    to the 1.5X "crop factor" (CCD is smaller than 35mm frame). So you'll need
    at least one lens to fill in the bottom end. I use a 19-35 which becomes a
    29-53 (sadly, not so wide), and a 28-70 (42-105 equiv).
    The 8700 has a fixed lens, though there are add-on fisheye and tele lenses
    for it.
    One wonderful advantage is, since you can't remove the lens, you won't have
    to worry about cleaning the CCD as with the D70/D100.
    We got the D100 because like others have mentioned, we had a stock of Nikon
    gear (I trade lenses between my N80 and my wife's D100).
    Its not always about megapixels...
     
    Larry CdeBaca, Oct 15, 2004
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