Nik may disable Photoshop

Discussion in 'Photography' started by PeterN, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    There have been reports where Photoshop suddenly stops working, where
    Nik software has been installed. It appears to happen only to people who
    have purchased Nik before the Google acquisition, and have auto update
    turned on. According to the report, an update was sent. If you have this
    issue, the fix is to download the trial version from the Nik website and
    use your serial number.
     
    PeterN, Nov 3, 2013
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  2. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest

    It's happened to me, but not often. My version was obtained after
    Google acquired Nik. I've blamed it on my own system, though.

    When I does happen, if I re-open PS and use Nik, there's no problem.
     
    Tony Cooper, Nov 3, 2013
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  3. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    There have been some NIK vs Google conflicts with various
    installations. When I ran CS5 I saw both the old NIK palette with the
    older NIK versions and the latest pre-Google versions. One palette
    labeled "NIK" the other "Google".

    After I bought the CS6 upgrade which was post-Google NIK acquistion, I
    was only able to install the Google-NIK versions, but still had the
    pre-Google apps available as stand alone.

    Now that I have upgraded my OS to the the new OSX 10.9 on this Mac, I
    no longer have access to the earlier plug-ins and CS5 appears broken
    until the conflict is resolved.

    With CS6 I have had no NIK-Google issues.
    Only the Google-NIK versions are available via LR5.

    On my laptop, a MBP running the older OSX, I can still access pre &
    post Google NIK plug-ins with CS5, but not CS6.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 3, 2013
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  4. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Try the suggested fix. That way you should have access to all of the
    plugins you purchased, and CS6 will run them.

    Although I can't prove it, Google may have sent these "updates" to weed
    out pirated copies.
     
    PeterN, Nov 3, 2013
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  5. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    I am not experiencing any real problems with CS6 under either version
    of OSX. It just seems that Google is killing off prior Pre-Google
    versions. I got a free update with the transition.

    Back with the change of management 18+ months ago, the Google version
    installed over the pre-Google version in CS5 and did not show any issue
    until the latest OSX update. Now the plug-in conflict exists.
    ....but easily fixed.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 3, 2013
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  6. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    Now the pre-Google versions will only open as stand-alone. The pre &
    post Google stand-alone are in separate folders.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 3, 2013
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  7. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Yup! But, do the old ones do anything that the new ones don't do?
     
    PeterN, Nov 3, 2013
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  8. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    I only have the plugins. I checked after your post and there is no
    reference to Google on my pallet. It only says "Nik collection." I only
    have CS6 installed.
     
    PeterN, Nov 3, 2013
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  9. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    Not really. HDR Efex Pro had a somewhat different look and had
    different presets, but for the most part I have abandoned the old
    versions & moved on.

    The pre-Google versions of the current editions, HDR Efex Pro2, Viveza
    2, Color Efex 4, Silver Efex 2, etc. have not changed post Google, just
    the addition of "Google" to the NIK palette, nothing functional.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 3, 2013
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  10. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    Here is where it says "Google" on my CS6 NIK Palette.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_352.jpg >

    Strange! I can run each as a stand-alone pretty much the same way I can
    run OnOne stuff as a stand-alone.

    ....and just for giggles here is the stand-alone version of the
    ColorEfex Pro 4 window, to be used if you want to by-pass LR, PS, etc.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_353.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Nov 3, 2013
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  11. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest

    I'm experimenting with OnOne. I'm using a trial version of 7 until 8
    is released later this month. So far, I've only worked with
    PerfectMask.

    I admit I don't have the hang of it yet, but it seems to work
    differently as a plug-in (File>Automate>) than as a stand-alone. I
    keep losing my efforts when using the plug-in. I can work on a file
    using PM as a stand alone, and then bring that file into CS6 with far
    more success.

    This may be Operator Error, though.

    What I've found to be the easiest route to isolate a figure from a
    multi-colored, multi-patterned background is to open the file first in
    PS, create a Layer Mask, and use broad strokes to delete all but the
    area immediately around the figure. I save that .psd, open OnOne as a
    stand-alone, and do the detail work in PerfectMask.

    Also, I create a layer with a bright yellow (or any color) fill to be
    behind the layer I'm cutting out. Where the old is left is easier to
    spot. The color fill layer is deleted when I'm done.

    I wish there was a User Forum for OnOne and not just the video
    tutorials.
     
    Tony Cooper, Nov 3, 2013
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    Alan Browne Guest

    CS5 is not broken - just those plugins - correct?

    (eg: I have no issues at all with CS5).
     
    Alan Browne, Nov 3, 2013
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  13. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    If you haven't got the current NIK plug-ins installed over the
    pre-Google versions you shouldn't have any problems.

    It is the mix of updating the old NIK plug-ins with the new Google
    versions and not uninstalling the Pre-Google versions. This creates a
    conflict and a CS5 crash. Shitcan the Pre-Google NIK plug-ins and do a
    fresh install.

    CS6 came along after Google acquired NIK so no problem there.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 3, 2013
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  14. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Here is a screenshot of my pallet.
    <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/97242118/Screenshot 2013-11-03 16.48.48.png>
     
    PeterN, Nov 3, 2013
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  15. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Can't say about CS5, but with CS6, if you have a pre-Google copy of NIK,
    CS6 messses up. I did not ask for details.
     
    PeterN, Nov 3, 2013
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  16. PeterN

    Alan Browne Guest

    I have no NIK plugins - so that solved it all... tempted, mind you.
     
    Alan Browne, Nov 3, 2013
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  17. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    I have had no such issues with OnOne. Exactly what steps are you taking?
    Although PerfectMask is quite easy to use, I find myself using PS and
    refine edge unless I have to select around hair, or want to change the
    sky behind trees.

    I just found this taht may be helpful. OnOne selection is color based,
    and there have been issues with your color space.

    <http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/50676939>

    Also, I have called them with issues, and they responded on the
    telephone, without any BS.Although their phone number is on their
    website, I prefer not to post it here. I will send it to your email if
    you wish.
     
    PeterN, Nov 3, 2013
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  18. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    is from the Photoshop filter menu and there has been no change to that.
    I see the same "Nik Collection" that you see.
    However NIK installs a floating tool window which you can choose to use
    or not, and that is what Google has branded. It is where you can choose
    to go directly to favorite presets or recipes and where some of the
    process tools show up if you use the NIK filters selectively with the
    brush.

    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_354.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Nov 3, 2013
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  19. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest

    Thanks, but I'm going to wait until I have 8 before I worry about it.
    It's due out near the end of November.
     
    Tony Cooper, Nov 3, 2013
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  20. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    I can't find that.
     
    PeterN, Nov 3, 2013
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