Nik may disable Photoshop

Discussion in 'Photography' started by PeterN, Nov 3, 2013.

  1. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    Try the following:

    Open an image in CS6.

    Go to your filter menu and select one of the NIK plug-ins, say Color Efex Pro4.
    Pick one of the effect or a preset and instead of applying it to the
    entire layer, select "Brush" in the NIK window. That NIK tool palette
    should open. because you have to be able to "Apply" the effect to the
    layer once you are done.
    Now paint the effect to an area on the image where you want it to be
    seen. Once you are done click on "Apply" in that NIK window.

    Note: the selective brush does not appear in the stand-alone or
    Lightroom versions of NIK stuff.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 3, 2013
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  2. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest

    The "floating tool window" seems to pop up when it feels like popping
    up. It can't be counted on.

    What the Duck's screen shot show is not the floating tool window. It's
    the drop-down from Filter>

    The floating tool window, when it chooses to appear, is a window that
    shows just the Nik tools.
     
    Tony Cooper, Nov 3, 2013
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  3. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    The NIK floating tool window will appear if you choose "Brush" from a
    NIK window, as you need to be able to click on "Apply" from that
    floating tool window when done.
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_355.jpg >
    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_356.jpg >
     
    Savageduck, Nov 4, 2013
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  4. PeterN

    Tony Cooper Guest

    None of your screenshots show what I think is the "floating window".
    Evidently, your version has a different appearance than mine. This is
    the floating window I'm used to, but I haven't done anything to this
    image yet.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7yoiudp3kcw14w3/Capture.JPG

    (Grandson was "Homecoming King")
     
    Tony Cooper, Nov 4, 2013
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  5. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Thanks. As you might have guessed, I have never used the brushes in Nik.
    I have it set to create a new layer, and use masking, blending and opacity.
    My pallet only says "Google." But as long as it works, it doesn't matter.
     
    PeterN, Nov 4, 2013
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  6. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    I guess there are some appearance differences between OSX versions of
    CS6 and NIK stuff and the Windows version, but if you actually look at
    my image you will see the "floating window". The "Tools" and the
    "Apply" button will only appear once you have clicked on the "Brush"
    button in the NIK application window.

    < https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_356.jpg >

    ....and in the one you posted above you will see we are in fact dealing
    with the same "floating window". Just grab a corner and stretch it out
    so you can see the entire window.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 4, 2013
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  7. PeterN

    otter Guest

    Interesting. I had just the opposite problem today. Photoshop CC
    updated, and Nik stopped working. I had to find the Nik download and
    reinstall it. Got everything working again, but it was a hassle.
     
    otter, Nov 10, 2013
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  8. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    I have not yet "upgraded" to CC, though I probably will.
     
    PeterN, Nov 10, 2013
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  9. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    For me currently running PS CS6 I just can't see opting into the CC
    subscription plan just yet. Though it is a viable and affordable
    upgrade path well within my usual Photoshop upgrade practice(habit).
    I will probably upgrade from LR4 to LR5 in the near future as that has
    one or two new features also found in PS CC which might prove useful.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 10, 2013
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  10. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    I have been going back and forth about that. But, the upgrade price is
    fair, and there is a cutoff date.
     
    PeterN, Nov 10, 2013
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  11. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    That is for the 1 year deal after which the subscription renews at the
    current contract. So that locks you into $120/year instead of the
    $20/month new user contract.
    We have until the end of the year to decide, so perhaps I will do the
    personal Xmas present. That package includes LR5 so it would save me
    the cost of that upgrade. The more I think about it the more it makes
    sense.
    < https://creative.adobe.com/plans/offer/photoshop+lightroom >
     
    Savageduck, Nov 10, 2013
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  12. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Somewhere I read that the 120 per year price would be maintained. the
    current offering does not say that. If the current price (not an
    upgrade,) is 240 per year, then the renewal price will be 240. the terms
    specifically say it will automatically be renewed for the "then current
    price of the offering."
     
    PeterN, Nov 10, 2013
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  13. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    That is what they say.
    "This offer includes access to Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5, plus
    feature updates and upgrades as they are available; 20GB of cloud
    storage for file sharing and collaboration; and Behance ProSite for
    your own fully customizable professional portfolio. That means you get
    all the benefits of a Creative Cloud single-app membership for
    Photoshop CC, but with Lightroom 5 included as well, for a terrific
    monthly price.
    This offer is available to customers who own a previous commercial
    version of Photoshop or Photoshop Extended, version CS3 or later
    (CS3.x, CS4, CS5.x, or CS6). Suites and volume licenses do not qualify.
    Requires an annual commitment with monthly billing. Available for
    purchase through December 31, 2013 from Adobe.com only."
    The term are spelt out here, and the renewal though vague, implies that
    you can be locked in at the special current offering rate:
    "VOID WHERE PROHIBITED OR RESTRICTED BY LAW. Eligible customers may
    purchase an Adobe Creative Cloud membership to Photoshop CC™ and Adobe®
    Photoshop Lightroom 5 bundled together for a reduced price. Offer valid
    for purchases of an annual plan, which requires a 12-month contract.
    This offer is only available to customers who own an older version of a
    Photoshop or Photoshop Extended product, version CS3 or later (CS3.x,
    CS4, CS5.x, or CS6), and who purchase directly from the Adobe Store or
    by calling a regional Adobe Call Center. This offer is not available to
    Education, OEM, or volume licensing customers. Residents of embargoed
    countries are not eligible. This offer is limited to one (1) purchase
    per customer. Offer is subject to U.S. export control laws and laws
    where the recipient resides. Offer may not be assigned, exchanged,
    sold, transferred, or combined with any other discount or offer, or
    redeemed for cash or other goods and services. Offer is valid until
    December 31, 2013, and can be changed without notice.  Void where
    prohibited or restricted by law.
    Renewal 
After the first 12 months, we will automatically renew your
    contract based on the current price of the offering.
    Cancellation 
We'd hate to see you go, but if you cancel within the
    first 30 days starting from your contract date, we'll give you a full
    refund. Otherwise, you'll be billed 50% of your remaining contract
    obligation for the cancellation or removal of seats. If you ever need
    to cancel, just call Customer Support"

    The special offering is only for prior owners of CS3-CS6, so if you are
    a newcomer to PS via CC you are in for the single module
    $20/month-$240/year.
    From the FAQ:
    "Only customers who own a previous version of Photoshop CS3 or later qualify."

    So, as I said, I will probably give it a try. For $10/month I can't go
    too far wrong. In the worst case scenario I still have CS6 & LR4.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 11, 2013
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  14. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Because of the ambiguity, I will use a telephone signup. That way I will
    have a live person to blame. ;-p
     
    PeterN, Nov 11, 2013
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  15. PeterN

    otter Guest

    Those are definitely weasel words. The guy I spoke with on the phone
    was very clear that the subscription would be renewed at the now current
    price, and not some current price in the future, but I didn't record him
    saying that. In any event, the written conditions always take priority
    over what some lowly employee says on the phone.

    So, I suppose some time in the future, Adobe could put the screws to me.
    However, I still have CS6 to fall back on if that happens. The
    $10/month makes a LOT of sense to me, if it continues. I spent a lot
    more than that on upgrades to both LR & CS the last few years.

    I think I could figure a way to get out of it if I had to.
     
    otter, Nov 17, 2013
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  16. PeterN

    Savageduck Guest

    The ambiguity remains; Is that the current promotional price, or the
    current standard single app subscription price?
    Agreed, I have PS CC + the CC version of LR5 up and running and I am
    quite happy. The way I see it, for $120 I have discounted upgrades on
    CS6, LR4 to LR5, and what ever comes along in the next year for PS CC
    and the latest update to LR. I would have spent $300-$400 to cover that
    upgrade path.
     
    Savageduck, Nov 17, 2013
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  17. PeterN

    PeterN Guest

    Yup!

    The guy I spoke with on the phone
    Agreed. The written words do not make things clear that the promotional
    rate will continue. And taken literally, mean that the second year will
    cost me $240 per year, which is almost 55% more than I would pay if I
    was to upgrade every 18 months at the current rate.
    upgrade price 200 for 18 months = $11.11 per month vs $20. per month.
    That is a significant price increase. And considerably more than the
    current rate. I'm not saying it's a deal breaker, but I cannot justify
    the payments in terms of: "It's not much more than I am paying now."
     
    PeterN, Nov 17, 2013
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