Nikon 28-105mm 3.5-4.5 or Tamron 28-105mm 2.8 ???

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by James Bass, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. James Bass

    James Bass Guest

    I'm in the market for a new general purpose lens & can't decide between the
    Nikon or Tamron. I've heard really good things about the Nikon but I like
    the constant aperture of the Tamron. Feedback appreciated.

    -thanks
    James
     
    James Bass, Feb 5, 2004
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  2. James Bass

    Alan Browne Guest

    The Tamron in question is not particulalry sharp, and has a lot of
    distortion. (-3.4 to 4.7%)

    The Nikon in question is rated sharper, and the distortion is much less
    than that of the cited Tamron. (-2.7 to 1.85%)

    If you tend to use low speed films, and you are not over concerned with
    sharpness and slight field distortion, the Tamron is appealing. Try
    before you buy to be sure of comaptibility.

    Alan.
     
    Alan Browne, Feb 5, 2004
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  3. James Bass

    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    I'm in the market for a new general purpose lens & can't decide between
    the
    Tamron are junk and you get what you pay for, considering the money you will
    not get a better all purpose zoom than the Nikon 28-105 AFD- be in no doubt.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Feb 5, 2004
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  4. James Bass

    TP Guest


    So how do you explain the fact that so many Nikon lenses are made
    under contract for Nikon by ...

    .... Tamron?

    The 70-300mm G and AF-D Nikkors are made by ... Tamron. All the kit
    28-80mm and latest 28-100mm Nikkors are made by ... Tamron. The
    28-200mm Nikkor is made by ... Tamron.

    And the 28-105mm AF-D Nikkor you so admire?

    Made by ...

    .... Tamron.

    And it's a great lens, like some other Tamron-made lenses that are
    sold as Nikkors, Canon EF, SMC Pentax FA, etc., etc.

    The truth is that there are good and bad Nikkors, good and bad Canon
    EFs, good and bad Tamrons. To state that any of these brands are all
    good or all bad is ignorant nonsense (the worst kind).
     
    TP, Feb 5, 2004
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  5. James Bass

    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    So how do you explain the fact that so many Nikon lenses are made
    The same reason why a lot of junk is made in china, cheap labour costs and a
    fatter profit margin for corporates that is all.
    Can you prove it ? I don't think so.
    nonsense (the worst kind).

    Remind you of your behaviour with regard to Sigma products then Tony ?
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Feb 5, 2004
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  6. James Bass

    TP Guest


    I don't need to.
     
    TP, Feb 5, 2004
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  7. James Bass

    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    Can you prove it ? I don't think so.

    Ah, just like your photography mate.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Feb 5, 2004
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  8. Those lenses you cited, some of them anyway (the 70-300s for certain) were
    *designed* by Tamron but are built by Nikon.

    Tamron makes some good lenses (I own a 28/2.5 manual focus and the AF
    28-105/2.8 LD) but also some terrible ones (the 90-300/4.5-5.6 AF was very
    disappointing; my 75-300/4.5-5.6 Nikkor is worlds better).

    Jim
     
    Jim MacKenzie, Feb 5, 2004
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  9. James Bass

    TP Guest

    They are all made by Tamron in a Tamron factory.
    The 75-300mm Nikkor was not made by Tamron. It was made by Nikon.
     
    TP, Feb 5, 2004
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  10. James Bass

    TP Guest


    Yes, exactly. You're beginning to catch on.

    ;-)
     
    TP, Feb 5, 2004
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  11. James Bass

    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    They are all made by Tamron in a Tamron factory.

    Claims are easy to make, but if you can't back them up they ain't worth
    shit.
    So Tony, put up or shut up- your choice.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Feb 5, 2004
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  12. James Bass

    TP Guest

    They aren't claims. They are statements of fact.

    You are welcome to disprove them. If you question them, you must have
    some knowledge that they are incorrect. So please present it here for
    the benefit of your many fans.
    See above.

    ;-)
     
    TP, Feb 5, 2004
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  13. James Bass

    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    They aren't claims. They are statements of fact.
    I cannot disprove a claim that has no proven basis in fact, that's a neat
    little trick, trying to turn the emphasis on to me for a claim that you
    simply cannot back up.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Feb 5, 2004
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  14. James Bass

    Jim Waggener Guest

    In what country does Tamron manufacture their lenses?
     
    Jim Waggener, Feb 5, 2004
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  15. James Bass

    Nikkorguy Guest

    They aren't claims. They are statements of fact.

    It is a neat trick. And not at all unexpected.
     
    Nikkorguy, Feb 5, 2004
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  16. James Bass

    TP Guest

    I have no need to back it up. I know it it be true, and that's good
    enough for me.
     
    TP, Feb 5, 2004
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  17. James Bass

    Joseph Kewfi Guest

    I have no need to back it up. I know it it be true, and that's good
    Tony, I'm glad your satisfied with yourself. Don't ever let the small matter
    of proof get in the way of your claims.
     
    Joseph Kewfi, Feb 5, 2004
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  18. You don't always get what you pay for... the Tamron 28-105 f2.8 is, contrary
    to Mr. Kewfi's rather hasty knee-jerk reaction, quite a bit more expensive
    than the Nikkor- I say is, I think was is more appropriate as Tamron seem to
    have discontinued it, and given how popular their 28-75mm f2.8 Di lens is
    i'm not surprised. The 28-105 still manages to hold its value secondhand
    though, given that it is unique as a wide aperture 28-105mm zoom. I was
    quite unhappy with the Tamron 35-105 f2.8 (a rather similar lens by all
    accounts) as it distorted visibly, was soft at the long end, was excessively
    heavy and gave a rather flat, lifeless colour rendition; whereas I know a
    Nikon 28-105 user who wouldn't trade it.

    The way I see it, fast aperture zoom lenses are quite unneccessary- it is
    merely convenience, and the fact that the majority of the best zooms are
    large aperture types, that keeps the market for such lenses alive. Of
    course, i'm sure there's a degree of "showing off" to it too.
     
    Martin Francis, Feb 5, 2004
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  19. Well, I looked into this a while ago. Here's what I found:

    When I asked Nikon in which factory in my 70-300 was made, they
    replied that all Nikkor lenses from China are made in the same
    factory.

    According to this page, one Nikon lens factory in China is in Hang
    Zhou and is a joint venture of Nikon and Asia-Optic:
    http://www.asia-optical.com.tw/eng/e-profile/e_p_history.htm


    Tamron's Chinese plant is in Guangdong province in the city of Foshan.
    Nikon also has a factory in Guangdong provice, but in Dong-Guan City.

    Draw your own conclusions.
     
    Michael Benveniste, Feb 5, 2004
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  20. James Bass

    TP Guest

    I have nothing to prove to you.
     
    TP, Feb 6, 2004
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